http://www.statenews.com Almost exactly two years ago, a crime that has become shrouded in controversy was committed on campus. You’ve probably heard this before: Three men — one armed with a handgun and a water bottle containing gasoline — entered a South Hubbard Hall dorm room Feb. 23, 2006, and threatened three occupants. One man poured gasoline on a victim and threatened to light it. en-us Foundry4 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:06:30 -0500 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:36:44 -0500 webmaster@statenews.com http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11375/view Come on, we know why the State News is really interested in the lawsuit. You are really big Quentin Tarintino Fans "Link Text":http://www.spartanweekly.com/042307campussnews.htm Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:45:39 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11375/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11376/view Who cares if the State News has the information? Based upon their track record they won’t accurately report it anyways. Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:11:55 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11376/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11406/view For the past 50 years, the State News and the MSU administration have engaged in a perrenial pissing contest, and this is just the latest round in it. Waste of ink… Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:41:13 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11406/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11411/view Dear State News, This “incident” was just people from Detroit acting like people from Detroit. I think I saw this scene play out in a Biggie rap video. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:22:13 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11411/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11419/view This has nothing to do with student safety. If the SN cared about the safety of students they would not let political correctness prevent them from releasing COMPLETE suspect descriptions when crimes happen at MSU. This FOIA lawsuit they have going is just the SN staff trying to play reporter. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:52:29 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11419/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11438/view Keep fighting SNews. I for one think it’s total bullpuckey that the University is fighting you on this. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:45:45 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11438/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11440/view Did you know your name means “fish” in French? Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:52:10 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11440/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11455/view “How long had these alleged “fights” been going on?” Who cares? How is this relevant? “Were they caused by MSU students or nonstudents?” You’ve already stated that the names are available from public court proceedings. Check the directory. It’s not hard. “What happened after the police responded Feb. 23, 2006?” Who cares? The offenders were arrested and are on trial. How will this knowledge help the typical student? Will guards be posted at the entrances to residence halls? Will all water bottles be inspected for combustibles? Should we install metal detectors? It seems that the $70,000 you have wasted on attorney fees for what is really just gossip and fearmongering could have been better spent on truly making a difference – like donating to SafePlace or a local domestic violence shelter. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:23:10 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11455/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11465/view That some of you take issue with this article is frightening. Since when is an honest inquiry into an issue that may affect or otherwise have repercussions upon students and personnel NOT a good thing? Even if their intentions are skewed (which this article does not suggest), even if their interests are sensationalist (which, again, this article does not suggest), that does not change the fact that we have the right to ask reasonable questions and a right to receive reasonable answers when it pertains to us and our safety. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:20:59 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11465/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11466/view Ignore your rights, and they’ll go away. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:24:20 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11466/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11469/view “That some of you take issue with this article is frightening.” Tell me about it. I’m shocked to see that willful ignorance, apathy and cynicism are so communicable. It must be going around with the flu this year. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:36:56 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11469/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11471/view Well I sure am glad I dont live in the “most diverse dorm” as the Statenews labels it. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:52:29 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11471/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11476/view Better question – are my State News taxes being spent to pay for your legal fees? Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:29:37 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11476/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11482/view I do think the SN originally wanted this for the sensationalist aspect of it, not for any concern over campus safety. But the university’s unreasonable denial has turned this into some huge deal with both sides wasting time and money. Rob Smith is right; this is just a big pissing contest. But the SN isn’t wrong here, and they are only trying to ensure their rights are maintained. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:06:52 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11482/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11485/view This is a huge waste and SN is WRONG here. All you people claiming the SN is loosing their rights are just ignorant. Read the article; “stated in rejection letters individuals involved in the Hubbard Hall assault had the right to privacy”. FOIA was never intended to supersede the “right to privacy”. Clearly there is something to the privacy issue here because even the courts agree with MSU. I am guessing that most of you people onboard with what the SN is doing are the same group that scream at the top of your lungs PRIVACY RIGHTS when it comes to abortion?! And I’ll state again from my previous post: If the SN cared about the safety of students they would not let political correctness prevent them from releasing COMPLETE suspect descriptions when crimes happen at MSU. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:29:35 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11485/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11490/view My issue with this article, and the whole debate, and the SN in general is that the SN presumes to be the “voice” of Michigan State and the students. The fact is that the SN follows its own agenda, that being a training ground and resume-padder for future tabloid writers, and this is just another example of how because the SN doesn’t get their way, they publish self-righteous editorials and utilize their own medium to reinforce their self-importance. Should the State News win this case, it would change absolutely nothing in regards to the state of safety on campus or the security of the student body. Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:01:44 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11490/view http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11586/view poisson = fish in french quit writing already Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:36:44 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/11586/view