Cedar Fest crowds dissipate by about 3:15 a.m.

I was the only one to stand up to these munitions, they were uncalled for, there were about 3 to 5 bad people in the crowd, and instead of singling them out, the police chose to use excessive force and tear gas the entire crowd of at least two thousand. I stood alone making sure their choices would be seen, the police were panicking and acting way out of procedure, if they would have relaxed and taken a few of the bad people out of the crowd and not have been so gun-ho about things, the situation would have been fine. the ELPD has been way out of control the past few controversies they have encountered and its time for us students to demand a change.

There is video evidence of the cops beating students. Cops were also refusing to provide badge numbers when asked. That was what students were told to ask for in order to file a complaint. However, repeated attempts to get a number from an officer were refused.

The people who have posted on here and the other articles are all classless idiots. “If only the police were worth a pot to piss in…If they weren’t present, than there wouldn’t be anyone to antagonize… Now would there?” Look at the medic reports from the local hospitals tomorrow and then you’ll see all of the injuries that were reported. People were throwing things into the crowd without provacation.

I’m absolutely clueless as to how this could possibly be pinned on the police department. They tried and tried to let the MSU students have their fun but it seriously got out of hand. I saw people with deep cuts on their bodies. It had to come to an end. Plus the police didn’t even use tear gas the first couple of times. They tried to fake everyone out. They showed admirable restraint in dealing with the morons who attended this event.

I was there. The police did a good job tonight. They were pretty much letting people go on partying until some assholes uprooted a sign and ran toward the police with it. A large crowd rushed the police at the end of cedar throwing numerous glass bottles. First, the police deployed smoke bombs that were harmless and people still wouldn’t leave. In order to protect themselves, they had to fire the tear gas. Yes I got hit but it had to be done because people would not stop throwing tear gas. This was nothing like 2005. The police did nothing wrong tonight. Shame on the students or those not affiliated with the University who threw things at the police.

Last nights events were nothing comparable to the 2005 riots… well in terms of the police anyways. In 2005 after the loss in the final four everyone gathered in the streets and in about 10 minutes tear gas was released. Yesterday the police allowed people to party all day, and “riot” for more than 6 hours before they did anything…. If anyone thinks the police were unlawful your ridiculous… if anything they let the fun last until 3 am… be thankful not stupid.

I sure hope any student arrested during this disturbance are kicked out of school. There is no place for these people at MSU. I know having witnessed the other riots as a student that 85% of the people that are rioting are not students. These are the people that make MSU look so bad.

WOW...is all I can say. I’ve worked and partied with people that have less than a highschool education and they behave better than this. Also, while in the military, I saw some crazy barracks parties, but never was it out of control like it is at MSU. Being known as a party school is very different than a rioting school. MSU Student, you show the same type of ignorance as your fellow students when you talk like that. The problem will be fixed in a few different ways. The first being accountability. The few bad apples, and I’d say there are probably more than just a few, should be expelled and fined just like any other adult. Secondly, students will or at least should get sick of being watched like children by the police. I have several ELPD friends and I promise they would much rather be fighting crime than babysitting. Get a clue. Oh yeah…I’m an MSU student too.

I’m so glad I got to flash the boobies daddy bought me as a sweet-16 present. Cedar Fest is SOOOO cool!
It reminded me of Spring Break! I was, like, SOOO glad to have a place to flash my boobies. After the party I passed out around 10 guys I didn’t know, I woke up kinda sore, but, like, it was SOOOO worth it! Cedar Fest ROCKS!!!!!!

And to the idiot who posted “ceder fest”, its CEDAR. Now you look stupid on you tube too.

I was there, I had a great time. The events did not ruin any aforementioned “reputations.” MSU is a party school, there are over 40,000 students. There was only around 2 thousand at Cedar Fest, so it wasn’t as if everyone was out there partying. Everyone was just having a good time and the cops were forcing their will.

Sure, some people were out of hand, but the majority of the people were just hanging out and having a good time. People were running around after being teargassed, which was pretty unnecessary. The cops were just trying to act hard as usual, but we all know they only cause more harm than good.

And to all those who are whining about reputations and decency, this finger’s to you! Live a little, stop being constrained by your lack of social inhibition. MSU’s reputation is that it IS a party school. You senseless individuals should have come to such realizations before you attended the university.

fact of the matter is it was a peaceful gathering, that’s why it went on until 3. if the all of the things that have been reported were actually happening it would have ended much earlier. a handful of people did get out of hand, but with the police stationed on top of the building with the spotlight the trouble starters could have easily been isolated and removed. instead it got late and they decided they didn’t want to stand out there waiting for somebody to screw up and chose to impose their will to get people to leave.

don’t come in here and cry about how embarrassed you are of the school or how awful we are. this wasn’t the ’05 riot. this was what cedar fest was and should have been minus the minority that has been mentioned.

be embarressed that the police in this town are more concerned with keeping their image as the almighty enforcers as opposed to the people that swore to serve and protect

Hey sparty, are you a senior? No? Okay I rest my case. If you are, well then you probably fall into another category of. & you are so certain that the irresponsible ones could have been plucked out?? You try finding & hand-plucking the exact idiot who threw a beer bottle or a can in a mob of thousands – oh, not so easy huh?

Throwing crap at police is not peaceful – partying all day in the sunshine, yes, but filling the streets tossing bottles and antagonizing the ELPD warrants at least tear gas. 05 was not a “riot”, last night was not a “riot” – Detroit in the 60’s had riots, LA had riots, Kenya 5 months ago had riots. EL just has idiots.

Dood, at Michigan we had this crazy party on the 2nd floor of the law library. We had a root beer keg and people were just going insane. You could hardly walk without someone showing you a fact from their encyclopedia.
Afterwards, we all went home, made hot cocoa and called over the local police so in essence it was the exact same as Cedar Fest.

Uh oh, the big shot senior is talking. Everyone be quiet and listen to his words of wisdom. Stop acting all hard because you graduate this year…you are probably some skinny nerd attacking with words from behind your computer monitor. Age has nothing to do with this.

You are all so off base it is unbelievable. If ten out of two thousand people cause a disturbance, then why throw every single person under the bus? I was there and not every person was assimilating an attack against the police. From what I witnessed for hours, people were just relaxing, throwing back a few brews and having fun. Obviously as time wears on more people will get crazy because of the excess consumption of alcohol.

Point is, don’t impose your wills on everyone there because not everyone took part in the stupid aspects of the night. It’s done with, get over it. You will not win anyone over with your pleas of making MSU a safer, less drunken school. People really don’t care what you have to say and will keep doing it.

seriously people, if you have no first hand account of what really went on, don’t submit your bullshit. you can say we are immature and an embarrassment as much as you want, but it only points out your own stupidity

yah um… i was walking down grand river during the “‘05 riot”... and… it def was not a riot. just for the record.

TM,

Let me guess, your a member of a socialist group on campus? You also want to study abroad in Cuba? Also, let me guess.. Your entering your 8th year in college, chasing some worthless graduate degree?

Only in EL do police get pelted by bottles while they are trying to control a mob scene, and then get blamed by some liberal idiot who is demanding their badge numbers.

TM step up and be a man, stop being a little bi###.

Hi, I normally try to steer clear of forums like this but I had a few questions for people on here. Not attacks, not afronteries, not attempts at talking like I know infinitely more than anyone else in this pissing contest and am always right, just questions, ok? First off, to those of you saying you hope all the kids who got arrested get expelled from school, do you really think that some girl who got encouraged and pressured into drinking all night, and then, in her drunken state encouraged by a bunch of chanting assholes to “show your titties” should be expelled for indecent exposure? for one bad decision pressed on her by a crowd of people that she (for some reason) likes and wants to impress? seems a little harsh. Second, has considered the psychological effects of police in riot gear. I agree with the statement that people went out looking to get tear gassed so that they could say they were in a riot and the assessment that that is ridiculous (there’s a lot of good reasons to get gassed for (protesting) and that’s not one of them. That being said, however, the police response was ill thought out at best. I was in Cedar Village OBSERVING and sober, and I can honestly say that when I went over there earlier in the night, it was just like any other night in cedar village, just a little more crowded. But even at that point the police were EVERYWHERE, conveying to others the sense that shit was going to happen. So, of course, all those kids who wanted a riot responded to the police presence by moving into the street, at which point the police donned riot gear. Even then things were fine, the dramatic change in the crowd that everyone is talking about didn’t come until the police moved in for a confrontation and started blasting threats or warnings, whatever you want to call them, over the loudspeaker. THAT is when bottles started being thrown at the police and the crowd got aggressive. The point is, before the night even started, everyone had a specific ending in mind for it, and whether consciously or unconsciously they all did exactly the right things to lead to that ending. If the police presence wasn’t as strong and as visible, which kept the revellers fired up and looking for a riot, the partiers may have never come outside en masse in the first place, and it’s likely the party would have simply gone on until everyone either passed out or got bored and left. My third question: does anyone think that rather than busting up parties and arresting underage drinkers the police should maybe be taking some sort of action to prevent bigger problems like, for instance, the astounding number of rapes that occur on this campus but are covered up for the sake of preserving the university’s image? (there’s something to think about for those of you who are talking about making the school look good). And lastly, to “stupid msu girl”, shut the fuck up. That’s not funny in the least, it’s a tragedy that shit like that happens and you should be denouncing the guys taking advantage of those girls, not making fun of or demeaning the girls that are victims of it and should be encouraging girls to take control of the situation, cary bricks in their purses, and say “fuck off” to asshole guys. P.S. to whoever wrote this article, you’re a journalist damnit. “Affect” is a verb (generally), “the burning EFFECT of tear gas” would have been the proper wording.

Hey Frank, TM is not the only one here suffering from little b___H disease. I am trying to imagine LB, I mean TM, whining for a badge number while bottles are being tossed at peoples heads. I think anyone who is convicted for throwing a bottle at a cop, or fellow student, or property, should themselves be tossed out of this school, and into the clink. Grow up, you fools.

Senior. Your time is gone and you should probally just accept that. I wouldn’t worry about whats going on because your worthless college life is over. Graduate and have fun at your worthless job while you reminisce over the low-life college experience you had.

Questions: excellent contribution, i’m glad there is somebody else that was actually there that hasn’t just come in here to bash the student body. unfortunately this whole thing is being spun as a ‘riot’ instead of the party/gathering it really was until the police broke it up.

enjoyingthis: i agree that the actions taken towards the police were completely unacceptable and are what will be remembered.

as Questions mentioned also, the police presence added to the expectations for the night greatly. they were stationed all over the place and repeatedly threatened people that they were going to get tear gassed and to get out. if you want to say that the people showed up looking for a riot, it can be argued that before it even the police were polishing their hard-ons with thoughts of tear gassing students

to enjoying this
It would be great if we could treat everyone as individuals, but living in a society of many people, there are societal pressures that affect every action a person takes, from something petty like flashing a crowd (the question of why that’s even a crime should be considered too since the only thing that makes it “wrong” for girls to be topless is the fact that it excites horny immature guys) to something as powerful as racism. Also, the point of that comment was that expulsion is a bit of a harsh sentence for an indecent exposure charge.

Questions: If that is your point, than make it. Not a bad one. But when you point out that your fellow students are a bunch of mindless robots, it doesn’t exactly help your case.

Once again the character of MSU students pops out. It’s times like these where “BE MICHIGAN” is most understood. Don’t they have a song at Michigan which says: “if you can’t go to college go to State”?

“You’re all a bunch of drunk hooligans who obviously don’t appreciate you’re parents spending all of this money on you to get an education and build a career.”

Yeah I totally agree with you, Saturday nights should be reserved for studying only.

What shocks me is that people like Donn think they are some kind of heroes, or martyrs for the cause. It’s was a party. Period. And like it or not, the cops have the power to intervene at 3:15 am (a reasonable time to have dispersed ANYWAY). Let it go.

This is stupid, selfish behavior on the part of the partygoers. What were to happen if there were emergencies elsewhere on campus and no police to help with them because of this “good time” ?

This is all that has to be said.

1. To MSU students who are disappointed in their classmates. I’m proud of you for not drinking or partying. You’ll do good in school, but unfortunately your social skills will probably be shit and you won’t get a good job.

2. To non-MSU students who are disappointed in MSU students: fuck off. Mind your own business.

3. To people correcting grammar, spelling, word choice, or whatever: fuck off. Get a life. I hope I’m using poor sentence structure.

FINAL STATEMENT: This could’ve been avoided by both PEOPLE PARTYING (student or non-student) and the police force. Blame doesn’t really need to be placed on anyone. The only thing that needs to happen is for the police to lay off our fucking case.

College = party.

That’s just how it is.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-michigan-state-disturbance,0,6889901.story

“Police said many of the troublemakers weren’t Michigan State students. Of the 52 people arrested, 28 had been identified as university students.”

i have been here for 4 years (no i’m not pulling the senior card) but i’ve been here since the last really crazy cedarfest. its all a waste of time. lets all show up and block off an entire intersection, tear down stop signs, FLIP CARS,and pretty much show up JUST to stare at the cops and wait to be gassed.

honestly anyone who was here to party this weekend could have drank in the streets in south complex or somewhere else- think about it guys- the cops were a little busy.

i had to work last night, but even if i didnt-i wouldnt have been there because i felt the tear gas last time, and have no intention of putting myself back into it.

people saying the place was fine and it was all the cops making it bad obviously wernt one of the girls i saw with bleeding HEADS from glass bottle being thrown at them-i dont care if it was a GVSU student or a central student or for that matter them both throwing it together——THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.

yes the cops are over bearing around here.

but cedarfest is MORE overbearing.

Let me just do that quote you and make fun of you bit.

“and I get bet that most of the partiers last night were still in high school then”

You must’ve graduated college! You’re pretty damn good at math!!!

“You all were gassed after almost 24 hours of partying, “

EHHHHH maybe not! I’d say maybe 17 hours, but anyways I don’t think hours of partying should be used in your statement justifying tear gas.

“I graduated in December, and moved to Cincinnati,”

Who gives a fuck. That was 4 months ago anyways.

“The ELPD did their job, just check with Sparrow Hospital tommorow about the amount of students that were hit with glass and required medical attention.”

Sooooo the ELPD did a good job providing MEDICAL attention to people with their riot gear. I think you need to study your public service departments again mister!

“Grow up, and stop “arranging” a party to try and get tear-gassed.”

You’re right. Lets listen to our wise old 4 month alumni who wasn’t even there. This is exactly what happened isn’t it? Oh that’s right…THE POLICE ARRANGED FOR THIS TO HAPPEN YOU MORON.

So the police department tried to correct their actions by warning us before they unlawfully dispense chemical weapons upon us. Wow! Great job police force! We don’t make you babysit, you choose to.

i’ll respond for the disapointed alumin to your comments because of the ease of response.
“You must’ve graduated college! You’re pretty damn good at math!!!”
it’s very possible that with the genius of all your responses- you just didnt graduate.
“EHHHHH maybe not! I’d say maybe 17 hours, but anyways I don’t think hours of partying should be used in your statement justifying tear gas.”
atleast you had warnings and 17 hours to enjoy yourselves, last time this went around there were no warnings just popped canisters after 20 minutes.
“Sooooo the ELPD did a good job providing MEDICAL attention to people with their riot gear. I think you need to study your public service departments again mister!”
who do you think calls ambulances? a lamp post? no the police..besides your buddies prolly pulled the lamp post down.(yes i saw footage of the crowd surfing stop sign.
“So the police department tried to correct their actions by warning us before they unlawfully dispense chemical weapons upon us. Wow! Great job police force! We don’t make you babysit, you choose to.”
finally it is lawful for them to break up a situation (especially after plenty of warning) with tear gas.
and they don’t choose to babysit, you choose to NEED babysitting.

grow up

Sorry, Michigan people. We don’t want to steal the thunder from your annual Hash Bash..

Again, the students cannot accept the fact that they messed up this time. Don’t blame the alcohol, the cops, or other assholes that ruined the party. Don’t even say that bottle throwing wouldn’t have happened hadn’t the cops interfered. If you go to football games, you see bottles being thrown every single weekend whether it’s waiting in line at the student section or inside the stadium. Don’t put the blame on the cops, it was your drunken/immature behavior that caused all this.

I do not care about cedar fest. I came to MSU to study and develop professionally and intelectually. MSU is one of the best academic institutions in the World and I think it is a shame that a stupid group of students do things that go against the values that MSU stands for. What should MSU do about this? Well, basically, what I have been waiting to happen for a long time: increase admission standards; pass legislation that any students with an MIP, or two, cannot be accepted into his college of preference (Social Sciences, Music, etc.). Also, I think that these are the consequences of MSU being more selective in its graduate programs than in the undergraduate programs. MSU should use this as a motivation to be more selective. After all, being more selective benefits everyone. It makes MSU’s degrees more valuable, it increases the amount of money available for scholarships per student, it increases the quality of the academic programs, it reduces the faculty:student ratio, and benefits many other aspects of the University. On the other hand, this means that costs would increase and the tuition, too. There is no problem. I do not care paying more, even when I am an Out-of-State Student, if this assures me a more valuable and recognized degree. Not to mention that events like this, not only damage the reputation of MSU, but also reduce the possibility of receiving donations from alumni and other individuals because they do not feel proud of things like this ocurring. I love MSU with all my heart. I came to MSU because of its many advantages. MSU’s beautiful campus, the great people, excellent faculty and academic programs. But its not fair that a few people damage the reputation of this institution. The vast majority of the Spartans work very hard academically, within the community and globally to maintain MSU a great institution but I thing the University needs to do something regarding admission standards. Go Green!! Go White!! Go State!!!

Wow, where do I begin?

You alumni are hurting your own images with your grammatically inept posts. Actually, none of you idiots can barely spell your own names. If you cannot even spell “intellectually,” why should I entrust any of you of actually being intellectuals? You alumni are probably all “General Studies” majors anyway.

DTN is getting rid of Cedar Village after next year. Why make a point on something you are obviously not aware of? It was a huge story in the State News months ago, get a clue and get out from under your rock. And why is Cedar Village so bad? It is a hell of a lot better than living in a stinky dorm room. Also, you think parties don’t go on at Park Place or Chandler’s Crossing? Um, yeah they do…except that Cedar Village is right in the cusp of campus and gets all the attention.

And to offer up a final fatality towards all of your weak, narrow minded and poorly expressed opinions, there were 52 arrests last night. ONLY 28 WERE MICHIGAN STATE STUDENTS. So if we ask these brainy alumni about a percentage for such a statistic, it would come out to around 53 percent. So for all you really slow individuals, only about half of the instigators last night attend Michigan State University.

Do some research before you look like a tool. Too late for that though. I hope they do it again next year just to spite all you ingrates.

So is the kid who posted this fracas on facebook going to be brought up on charges for causing the situation? He should probably be expelled at the least….

why does it matter how many of those arrested were MSU students!?? that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a ridiculous show of stupidity on MSU’s campus started by MSU students and continued, pouring into the streets… you think people across the country will think the event was any less embarrassing for our university’s image because of a dumb stat like that? prolly not.

The police were salivating at the opportunity to use their new “toys” on the students. And you all sound like lames calling State a party school. We used to be a party school…about 3 years ago. Now we’re just a big school full of white trash who like to get tear gassed annually. I regret not going to Michigan.

It is entertaining to read everyone’s perspective, many of which I am sure were through beer goggles. It is so off base to say that officers are the cause of what took place. Officers were taking beer bottles, beer cans, rocks, chairs, and other debris before they even put their helmets on. The Chief of MSU had a beer bottle graze the top of his head while standing peacefully on Watersedge near Cedar. The police didn’t want this riot! You all are so ignorant. Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps several of the local law enforcement officers graduated from MSU? But then again the cops are all uneducated and you all will make more than them when you graduate…right? I think that is often the line spouted out by students on a regular basis. Have you ever stopped to think that many officers live in EL and the surrounding communities and don’t want a riot to take place. Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps they have families and/or loved ones they would have rather been home with…then fallen victim of drunk, aggressive, idiots and their selfish acts? Have you ever stopped to think for a minute that the world, the US, MI, EL, and MSU doesn’t revolve around you?

I know many officers at EL and some at MSU. Many of them bleed green, but you all are too ignorant to realize that. You think it is ALL ABOUT YOU ALL THE TIME. I encourage all of you ELPD and MSUPD haters to do ride-a-longs and see for yourself from behind the scenes the crap they have to deal with. A majority of the CRAP is not even MSU student related, but then again…it is ALL ABOUT YOU ALL THE TIME...just ask yourself.

No, I am not lumping this with all MSU students. I know that a majority of the MSU student population was not there. This is directed to the idiots that were there and trying to place the blame on the police. They TRIED to let you idiots party…but about 500 of you ruined it for the other 2500. Great job! The police should’ve put their riot gear on before 1am and kicked your asses sooner! But they were trying to let it be ALL ABOUT YOU!!! But you all were too immature and too drunk to take advantage of what could’ve been a fun night for all.

I know for a fact the police would rather have gone home before 5, 6, 7am and not been covered in tear gas and have to take the necessary precaustions to prevent their families from being exposed to the gas left in their close, right down to their undies.

Please, stop blamming the police and those of you trying to blame the police, get your facts straight, or else put on a uniform and get your ass in the front line and see how you like taking debris for just standing there and trying to do your job. Yeah…sorry to inform you idiots, but the cops took several objects well before any smoke bombs were thrown. But then again, why would you all want to make yourselves look bad. You were just so tired after studying all week. Give me a break. I graduated from MSU and while partying is always a good time and a good way to releave a little stress throwing stuff at one another, beating each other up, setting stuff on fire, and assaulting the police is completely uncalled for.

I’m not embarassed to be a Spartan, but it is kinda sad when my family and friends call and e-mail all day, from all across the country, and world, and inquire “what is going on with YOUR school.”

Please, be a little more responsible in the future.

I went, fully anticipating a reenactment of ’05. I’ve heard many stories about ’05, and usually students assign the blame to the police for that ‘riot.’ I went fully intending to throw the teargas back at the pigs (with a baseball glove; they get really hot). Once I was there, it was extremely difficult to tell who the pigs were. I mean, there were the obvious ones, in uniforms and riot gear, but there were the pigs in the crowd also. People throwing bottles, flashing their parts that I don’t want to see, and chanting for the use of tear gas. I decided that some of the drunks there did indeed deserve the gas. I didn’t even go near the cannisters because if I was going to get arrested for felonious rioting I want it to have a purpose other than drunken violence. I have heard and seen videos of violence from both sets of pigs. Both the ELPD and the crowd made errors. Next time there is a cedarfest-like party, act like the adults that you purpose to be treated like. How about there’s a riot for something important: ending this war, for a tuition freeze, for the development of the student ghetto, for the fact that Michigan’s delegates to the Democratic Nat’l convention don’t count, for the fact that we are moving closer, and closer to a police state, for the horrid raids by ICE in Michigan. Any of these would suffice for me, but the apathetic masses at State care for nothing more than there next drink.