Goals vary for pope, Dalai Lama

Ryan Dinkgrave
For the past two weeks, the attention of American media has been largely focused on religion, spirituality and philosophy as the country hosted two of the world’s most revered spiritual leaders: the pope and the Dalai Lama. I think their experiences here illustrate how great of a distance exists between their worlds.
With 23.9 percent of the adult population in the U.S. reporting that they are affiliated with the Catholic Church, it is clearly a much larger group than the U.S. Buddhist population, which is about 0.7 percent of adults, according to a recent survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. While the number of adults who identify as Buddhist is greater than the number who indicate they were raised Buddhist, about one-third of American adults are former Catholics. In recent years, the Catholic Church has lost more American followers to other religious and unaffiliated groups than any other religious tradition.
This point was emphasized by the pope in his remarks before 60,000 people at Yankee Stadium, where he pushed for “obedience” to the “authority” of the church. The pope told the audience “real freedom is … the fruit of conversion to his truth,” but in another speech, he endorsed the protection of religious freedom. The Dalai Lama, speaking to almost 10,000 people in Ann Arbor, did not urge people to convert to his beliefs, but to “keep one’s own tradition,” noting that “all different traditions have some potential to bring inner peace.”
While both the pope and the Dalai Lama brought messages on a number of topics, the media largely focused on the controversies that each sect currently is facing. In Boston, the pope met with a few of the more than 13,000 victims of sexual abuse by Catholic priests. The scandal, which broke in 2002, involved more than 5,000 priests and has cost the church more than $2 billion in settlements and legal expenses.
After six years of asking the Vatican for such a meeting, a few of the victims finally had their day, though what larger effect, if any, this will have remains to be seen. The pope expressed regret and sorrow about the scandal, but failed to mend relations between the church and the victims, who had hoped to hear about specific steps and actions being taken by the church. Some victims noted that they found the pope’s words inconsistent with the efforts of the Vatican’s lawyers to limit their settlement payments. Rather than making peace of the situation, the pope’s efforts seemed more to stir the confusion about how the church is handling these issues.
The Dalai Lama arrived in the U.S. following protests of China’s occupation of Tibet, and protests of the Olympic torch ceremonies for similar reasons. Since the 1950s, the Dalai Lama and his Tibetan Government in Exile has been living in India while the Chinese government has relocated its people to Tibet. Despite the injustices done to the Dalai Lama and his people, his approach to resolving the problem is overwhelmingly peaceful.
Many of the world’s nations have been putting pressure on China to engage in dialogue with the Dalai Lama, while pro-Tibet protesters shadow the Olympic torch around the world. Still, despite this growing chorus of urgent support, the Dalai Lama has been quick to condemn the violence the Chinese accused him of inciting, even proclaiming he will resign from his position if it escalates further. Where full independence was once the goal for Tibet, the Dalai Lama now seeks cultural autonomy while keeping Tibet a part of China. Unfortunately, China has yet to indicate any willingness to compromise and has instead run a propaganda campaign against the Dalai Lama.
As one spiritual leader is trying to find a compromise with his opposition, the other largely is seen as delivering little more than words to his. I do not believe the two situations are comparable to the extent that one can draw conclusions about the two belief systems based on this situation, but I do believe it illustrates the difference between each of their traditions, values, worldviews and life philosophies.
So far, the accomplishments each seeks — restored confidence in the Catholic Church and Tibetan autonomy — have yet to translate to reality. Though their visits to the media-crazy U.S. were brief, the images they rendered before the public eye during these trips will affect their quests for these goals for years to come. Only time may tell which approach, if any, was the wiser path.
Published on Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Comments
Alex
04/23/08 @ 8:13pm
A subtle hint of anti-Catholicism: the Pope called for conversion to God’s truth, not the Pope’s truth, as the article suggests.
http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15129
Justin
04/23/08 @ 8:21pm
I think there isn’t a whole lot of difference bewteen the two. They both are people who are looking for a true happiness and trying to get people to find it. The Pope firmly believes in the teachings of the Catholic Church and Jesus and the dalai Lama believes in the efficacy of the Buddhist teachings. While I do not agree that “all paths lead to the top of the mountain” I think there are good things to be found in both traditions. As a conservative Theravada Buddhist myself, I can find merit in some of what the Dalai Lama and the Pope has to say. Both men are trying to wake people up from the moral cesspool of war, violence and secular humanism run wild.
Frank
04/23/08 @ 11:33pm
A StateNews columnist bashing Christianity and the Pope? How original!! What next, a pro-choice abortion article?
Great work Ryan. Yawn.
Amir
04/24/08 @ 3:53am
Unfortunately we do need “pro-choice” articles because worthless reactioanaries like you believe in female reproductive slavery.
Ben
04/24/08 @ 8:12am
Let’s see…
The SN likes Buddhism and the Dalai Lama, so he gets his title capitalized.
The SN hates Catholicism and the Pope, so the Pope gets his title in lower case.
MSUAlum2001
04/24/08 @ 8:36am
Looks like you nailed it on the head Ben and Alex. I guess we see Dinkgrave’s bias here.
MSUAlum2001
04/24/08 @ 8:56am
My question to Ryan, is what opposition is the Pope facing? Yes the priest sex abuse scandal is black mark but I wouldn’t necessarily call that opposition. And the Church is settling with the victims, which is more than I can say for all the other denominations in this country where pastors have been caught frolicking with the kids. It’s funny that I don’t see lawsuits going after the Baptists, Methodists, and all the other Christian churches where this kind of stuff happens on just as frequent of a basis.
Dinkgrave also does a disservice by saying the Catholic Church has not laid out steps to correct the problem. This is patently false. They have removed several priests from parishes that were still active (It may have taken a couple years but it is being done). The seminaries are also looking closer at their students for signs that the potential priest may be a problem. What else is he looking for? And as far as lawyers trying to limit how much of a settlement…what is the Church supposed to do? Roll over and just give people whatever they’re asking? Again, why aren’t these lawyers going after other denominations? Oh wait, I know the answer…do you Ryan?
And while the Dalai Lama may condemn the violence that is being done in the name of Tibet, he certainly hasn’t done much over the years to really quell it.
Benjy Compson
04/24/08 @ 9:35am
I do agree this article has a vague anti-Catholic sentiment (and though it is irrelevant, I am not Catholic). But, regarding the pope/Pope controversy, the State News seems to be trying to follow Associated Press guidelines on capitalization.
“The first reference to a clergyman or clergywoman normally should include a capitalized title before the individual’s name. ... If known only by a religious name, repeat the title: Pope Paul VI or Pope Paul on first reference, Pope Paul, the pope (not Paul) or the pontiff on second.”
From page 220 of the AP Stylebook (http://alumni.imsa.edu/org/hadron/ap.pdf)
The problem is they never definitively establish who they refer to as “the pope” with a proper first reference. The first sentence should have ended “the country hosted two of the world’s most revered spiritual leaders: Pope Benedict XVI and the Dalai Lama.” Oddly, the pope is never named in the entire column.
Tim
04/24/08 @ 10:14am
I’m not sure what the Catholic Church is expected to do other than pay settlements, begin screening candidates for priesthood and fire those who are found to have molested children. Mr. Dinkgrave alludes to victims being unhappy with the Vatican’s response, but fails to identify which requested measures have not been taken.
MSUAlum- I’m not sure what you are getting at with your statements regarding other sects not being sued. What proof do you have that this is occurring in Lutheran Churches, Methodist Churches etc? The only reason I can think of for only going after the Catholic Churce is because of money and that they have shown a willingness to settle.
MSUAlum2001
04/24/08 @ 11:18am
Tim, I’ve read countless articles of pastors in churches getting involved with teens in their churches. I’m not going to cite every instance, but a couple have occurred in St. Joseph County. A Baptist minister in the Detroit area got popped a few years ago for trying to meet a teenage girl he met on the internet.
And you are absolutely correct on why the Catholic Church is being singled out for lawsuits….Money. They’re a lot more deep pocketed than the rest and there is a slight anti-Catholic bias in this country. I’m sure if lawyers went hard after other churches, they’d settle too but what’s the point when you can only get a couple of million at most versus a couple HUNDRED million?
MSUAlum2001
04/24/08 @ 11:20am
And the other proof I have is that even Dateline’s “To Catch a Predator” has caught ministers and rabbis.
Dan
04/24/08 @ 11:26am
This is a worthless article written by a fool with a lurid comprehension of current events. Mr. Dinkgrave’s laughable attempt at a tactful commentary disrobes his absolute ignorance and bias regarding Benedict’s message to America. He wholly disregards any thoughtful consideration of the pope’s theme of unity and reconcilation. But this is to be expected. Liberals/socialists/communists would never pass on opportunity for vituperation against Christianity, and his pathetic comparison with Buddhism offers nothing but garrulous banter.
Mr. Dinkgrave’s belligerent second-to-last paragraph trucently illustrates liberalism’s inate antipathy and hatred of Christianity, and defines the greatest scheme to discredit the Christian Church in the last one hundred years: blaming the sex abuse scandal on clergical hypocrisy instead of the real reason for the shame and horror, which is homosexual pedophilia.
beau
04/24/08 @ 12:43pm
Dan: Big words still can’t cover a small mind.
KuBoots.
04/24/08 @ 1:40pm
Dan,
Big Mouth/Big Words. Stop BLAMING all of your thoughts and problems on anyone that may NOT have your Conservative mindset. I’ve come by a lot of your —extremely— Conservative comments, one day you have to realize people have their own broader viewpoints. (By the way, I am a Christian and a liberal)
Bleed Green
04/24/08 @ 1:56pm
Dan,
I have no doubt there are homosexual pedophiles; there are creeps everywhere, of every race, religion and sexual orientation.
However, it is irresponsible and WRONG of you to lump all perverted clergy in the category of “homosexual pedophiles”.
Aside from the, the scandal isn’t JUST the terrible acts that have occurred (those these certainly stand on their own); it is also scandalous how the Catholic Church has dealt with this.
Sigh
04/24/08 @ 2:23pm
Religion is the greatest scourge of mankind.
Amir
04/24/08 @ 3:10pm
I don’t think religion is the greatest scourge of mankind, but it is still pretty terrible!
Bill Lumberg
04/24/08 @ 3:44pm
I have read allot of stupid things in the SN online, but Amir “female reproductive slavery”, this is far and away the stupidest thing I think I have ever read.
Pope
04/24/08 @ 3:51pm
Ryan is a genius!
common sense
04/24/08 @ 5:05pm
Ryan’s an idiot. Thankfully, so’s Dan.
Amir
04/24/08 @ 5:54pm
Bill, can you tell me what is not “slavery” about the state essentially owning a female’s body for 9 months?
Question
04/24/08 @ 6:18pm
Who “owns” a female’s body for 9 months????
Barry
04/24/08 @ 6:34pm
Defeat Another Hussein. Elect John McCain!