November 20, 2008

Cedar Fest penalties

  • Inciting a riot includes urging others to break the law, burning or destroying property or interfering with law enforcement officials assigned to riot duty with the intent of starting or worsening a riot.
  • It is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $10,000.
  • Unlawful assembly includes participating in a group of four or more people assembled with the intent to riot, or remaining at an assembly that develops into a riot with the intent of participating.
  • It is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and/or a fine of up to $5,000.
  • Disorderly conduct is punishable by up to 90 days in jail and a $100 fine, plus court costs.

Source: Michigan Legislature, city of East Lansing

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Student arraigned, charged with disorderly conduct

One of the 28 MSU students arrested at Cedar Fest was arraigned Tuesday in East Lansing’s 54-B District Court and faces a single charge of misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

Arts and humanities freshman George Fraser said he was charged with throwing multiple beer bottles during the event.

Fraser said he threw a single beer can and hopes to review police video and photographs to prove his statement.

Disorderly conduct is typically punishable by up to 90 days in jail and a $100 fine, plus court costs, East Lansing City Attorney Dennis McGinty said.

“We’re typically enhancing the charges by account of participating in a riot,” he said.

Fraser said court clerks told him he could face an additional felony charge of inciting a riot, which could be filed as late as this summer.

“I think I was thrown into that category simply because I was there,” he said. “I feel like if I was to get inciting a riot, everyone should.”

East Lansing police Lt. Kevin Daley said the penalties individuals arrested at Cedar Fest face are strict but fair.

“I don’t know what the university or the city could have done any more in telling people, ‘If you participate … you’re going to be expelled,’” Daley said.

If he receives additional charges, Fraser said he plans to fight them — but hopes it doesn’t come to that.

“I’m hoping I don’t get charged with inciting a riot and I can just deal with the misdemeanor,” Fraser said. “I just really don’t want that on my record for job applications or grad school.”

Fraser said he feels he was an easy target for police because he was standing on the outskirts of the crowd, a move he thought would keep him out of trouble.

“In fact, it made me more obvious because police weren’t arresting people in the crowd,” he said. “It was a case of the wrong place at the wrong time.”

Police have said more arrests could be made as police review their own and civilians’ videos and photographs from Cedar Fest.

Police plan to create a Web site where citizens can post their images from the night and a Web site with pictures of unnamed, unlawful individuals believed to have taken part in Cedar Fest, Daley said.

Published on Tuesday, April 8, 2008

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Good for him
04/09/08 @ 1:29am

No, this isn’t a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. No matter where Fraser decided to throw the bottle, he shouldn’t have done it. There were people who had serious wounds from thrown projectiles. This person should be charged with inciting a riot as well as felony assault.

Just some kid
04/09/08 @ 3:04am

good luck getting kids present at a “riot” to participate in incriminating their peers. that web site will never work. maybe they should make a facebook group.

jason
04/09/08 @ 5:57am

all i know is, id sure as hell turn you in for the 15 hundo.

Steve
04/09/08 @ 6:33am

Good luck George. I hope they make an example out of you.

John
04/09/08 @ 7:54am

“Fraser said he threw a single beer can and hopes to review police video and photographs to prove his statement”

You just admitted your guilt, punk. Say good-bye to MSU and hello to WCCC.

Jed
04/09/08 @ 8:02am

Fraser,

Welcome to community college!! Or if you are lucky, the University of Phoenix.

glen
04/09/08 @ 8:08am

GREAT one Fraser….inciting to riot. I totally agree..all arrested should be charged and if student immediately expelled. Shouldnt have been there Fraser. I recruit on campus and surprise we check for
arrests and surprise, surprise…you aint gonna get a job cause we go back 7 years. Even check parking tickets. By the by wonder why they didnt nail you for being under the influence and a sh-t head.
Your folks and grandparents must be so proud..or are they sh-t heads too.

Sam
04/09/08 @ 8:11am

I bleed Green and White. Fraser you dont. BY BY…and dont let the
door of the Student Union hit you in the A— on your way out.

I hope your folks are proud of you. At least your still alive.
Most cops in other countries dont put up with this BS.

Glen
04/09/08 @ 8:29am

unless e lansing issued a permit and blocked off cedar street and if they did shame on them. All arrested should be charged with inciting to riot and illegal assembly at the least.

i saw some idiotic comments in another set of comments about Hillsdale. I guess most folks dont know about the best school in the state. Its ranked with Yale and Harvard and also the elite school of Lake Forest. North of Chicago..i think its call Lake Forest..all the rich kids..Armor family go there and usually start life as mid or upper management. Hillsdale, for the uneducated, is the best private
college in Michigan. The Saudi Royal Family, the Coors Family, the Quale Family, and Most Execs send there kids there.
Recruiters, for those who think college is just for jobs, recruit from Hillsdale before UofM or Moooo U. Its the tops in the state. All students have advisors that care and mentor the students through
there time there. Advisors are responsible for the students.
Most likely some Hillsdale advisors/teachers head would roll as well as the students if drunken riots occured there.

GREAT School….Ive join some of the other alum. and changed my will as well. Was gonna give a ton of flowers to the hort. school and campus. Im 81 and looking forward to seeing God soon. Never rioted, never broke the law…did make money and proud to say my MSU degree didnt do squat, my sweat and working three jobs got me my bucks.
I really like the Hillsdale summer college for older folks too.
I think its neat to go there, live in Dorm and hear the VP or the
“Bela Palagosi” talk about there views on National Defense or
a Liberal/Conservative debate”.

School teachers get some great courses and seminars in the summer and they are almost free.

Not bad for the best private college in the State.

sam
04/09/08 @ 8:39am

FRASER...You committed a Felony for sure. You were there.
If E Lans and MS Pheu wants alumi support, they are gonna have tough this time. YOU SCREWED UP, you should have been in your dorm studying. If your on state support..free ride on my and other tax payers money, we want our money back. Were(Mich taxpayers and the folks that fund MSU and maybe you) pissed and we want our money back
or MSU and E Lansing to do what we pay them to do. ENFORCE LAW and Standards.

And this time we the taxpayers arent gonna let MSU or ELans. cover this up and let you and your friends skate.

The Cops…ie Police were letting a lot of folks skate…they only grabbed the worst. Now they gotta enforce the law and do it hard…

So bottom Line….YOUR TOAST....
You pissed away your free ride…welcome to the working world
or 8 bucks an hour.

Spartan Grad
04/09/08 @ 8:58am

A few comments… I think it is funny that the police are now encouraging students to post their photos and videos on their web site. Last I read, they singled out students with tear gas who were not posing a threat and simply documenting the event on film. I’m sure they’ll gladly hand over their evidence now!

To this idiot Fraser… You were not “in the wrong place at the wrong time”. Getting hit by a meteor while walking in the park is being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Throwing bottles (no wait “cans” and “only one”) at the cops can only be described as utter disrespect and stupidity. Face it, your only regret is that you got caught.

Lastly, I am sick of these so called “self made millionaires” bragging about how they were going to donate to MSU, but now will not. And yes Hillsdale is a great school, I have a sister and cousin that graduated from there. But WTF does it have to do with any of this!? The way these supposed rich donors speak of this event make me severely question their intelligence and honesty about their financial standing. Unless they won the lotto, I don’t buy it!

JR
04/09/08 @ 9:13am

Spartan Grad, right on. By the way Glen and these other clowns write, I highly doubt they have a college degree or a nickel to donate. Put your money where your mouth is ‘Big Guys’ and prove your donations went to Hillsdale and that they WERE going to MSU. Until then, shut up, because you sound like fools.

“GREAT School….Ive join some of the other alum. and changed my will as well. Was gonna give a ton of flowers to the hort. school and campus. Im 81 and looking forward to seeing God soon.” Good riddance. Go green.

Fraser, Douche
04/09/08 @ 10:18am

Fraser—-you’re a toolish ass-clown who should be put in jail for his/her stupidity. Your lack of integrity makes my skin crawl. I hope you’re made an example of, because YOU’RE A TOOLISH TOOLY TOOLINGSTEIN!

Most Sincerely,

Broseff

beaumont
04/09/08 @ 10:25am

Hillsdale is a very good college for corp. recruiters looking for complete conformist, conservative sheep. But they do get good jobs for the most part and make money and that’s what it’s all about in the US today. Just don’t look for out of the box thinking, most of them are so far in the box they can’t even see the sides. Go Green.

Spartalum
04/09/08 @ 11:03am

Hillsdale may indeed be a fine school but comparing it to State is silly. MSU is ranked 71 by US News in the National University category (The same category as Harvard, Glen). Hilldale is ranked 97 in the Liberal Arts College category. Besides being expensive and the letter H, what does Hillsdale have in common with Harvard, or MSU for that matter.

(_riots not included, opinions may vary_) ;-)

Fraser, Surrender
04/09/08 @ 11:05am

Fras, you were doomed from the start, being in humanities. You just sealed the deal with drinking. Have a nice time, selling TVs.

urrrrked
04/09/08 @ 12:19pm

Where did Hillsdale come out of this? And why does this guy think he can put Hillsdale above UM? What?!?!!? Who cares what rich people send their kids there…give me a break. Fraser, you’re an idiot, you don’t belong at our great school, leave…we all hope you’re gone for good. And to say you’re worried about grad school and jobs…thats what the rest of us who didn’t participate are worrying about after morons like you make our school look like crap! Thanks big guy!
Have a nice life deuche-bag!

Quit Hating
04/09/08 @ 12:19pm

Screw all of you, this kid is a good straight arrow kind of guy.
Also if you claim to be a proud MSU alum or think that he should have stayed in his dorm
instead of going out, that’s fine, but when you can’t even spell words correctly or make elementary mistakes of using the wrong you’re your or by bye? let’s be honest, who are you to judge about school work.
Ethically speaking yeah people were being really stupid and trying to get tear gassed which personally is moronic, but I think he has a valid point when he expressed how unfair it was for the police to pick out the stragglers versus the kids in the crowd tearing up stop signs and starting fires.
And Broseff, from the way you write I can only assume you are still in High School or maybe college? Now I have to retract that thought because what person would turn on his or her fellow student. So it just must be you yourself are the douchey tool ass-clown.

F all haters,
GOOD LUCK GEORGE

random
04/09/08 @ 12:22pm

Bye Fraser, I hope you can’t get a job for ten years

Come On Now.
04/09/08 @ 12:27pm

Most of us Spartans are still standing behind you George.
Good luck to you. =)
GO GREEN. GO WHITE.
Sparty on.

MSUalum
04/09/08 @ 12:45pm

No, most of us Spartans are not standing behind you, George.

If you didn’t want it on your record, you should have stayed home. As a freshman, you threw a beer can at a riot. I’m embarassed that you attended my alma mater; hopefully, that mistake will be fixed soon.

Jordan
04/09/08 @ 12:45pm

To everyone who believes that George is “toast”....go read a legal book…or maybe Michigan Compiled Law. This law he broke was a city ordinance. How many of you were actually there at Cedar Fest? I was there observing, as was the ACLU. What this article FAILED to include is the fact that George was also physically choked by an undercover cop who did not identify him as such. As a fellow ACLU member, I assume that we are pursuing as case against ELPD and MSUPD for this unprofessional action.

Michigan State is lucky to have him as a student. I know him personally, having an extremely high GPA and a constant contributer to his peers and professors. Unless you know these students, you’d realize that they are EXTREMELY remorseful for their actions and in ways have already begun to pay their debt to the community. George got arrested and also breathilized: blowing a 0.0. He did make one bad choice but this should not and will not “scarlet letter” him for years to come.

CYA B****
04/09/08 @ 12:47pm

what are you talking about Come on Now? Any Spartan who loves their university would be hoping for them to throw the book at this kid. He disgraced the university, its students, and its alumni, he has done nothing that warrants the support of the students, and is an embarrassment to our school.

Excuse Moi?
04/09/08 @ 1:01pm

So Fraser has a high GPA and “contributes to his peers” (a comment I disagree with, as a fellow student of the Arts and Humanities). That doesn’t mean anything when it comes down to the fact that he was THROWING BOTTLES AT POLICEMEN. He was on the outskirts of the crowd? He was still throwing bottles at policemen.

The students want to keep Welcome Week a week long? Congratulations, you just proved to the entire community that we can’t handle the responsibility of keeping ourselves under control.

Childish. Completely childish.

random
04/09/08 @ 1:02pm

Thanks Jordan for that story. I dont care how great of a guy he is or what his GPA is. He messed up and I hope he is kicked out and I am going to laugh if he is.

Opposed to Quit Hating, keep hating
04/09/08 @ 1:03pm

Quit hating,

First of all, there is no way that the cops could have arrested every person that committed some sort of crime. Fraser put himself in a bad position by throwing a can into the crowd, let alone at the cops. I don’t care if he threw one can, two cans or even a half of a can (I know that doesn’t make sense, but neither do you), all it takes is one to cause great harm to a person. Because the cops were in protective gear doesn’t make it okay for a person to throw a projectile at them to test its durability.

MOST SPARTANS ARE NOT STANDING BEHIND YOU GEORGE. Please know that! I for one think you should be expelled and fined and jailed for you reckless behavior. I’m so sick and *ucking tired of people making “everyday” mistakes and thinking that they shouldn’t be held accountable. GROW UP! This isn’t high school anymore. Also, I am a college student, a senior at that. Because Fraser and I are “fellow student” (albeit not for much longer) doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t turn on my fellow “spartan” when they commit a violent crime. And no, I’m not blowing it out of proportion. I was there on assignment and I saw people with bloodied heads and arms because they were hit with bottles… I saw people who couldn’t walk because they had huge gashes on their feet from the street being littered with broken bottles.

FRASER, YOU ATTRIBUTED TO THIS! YOU NEED TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE.

For all the idiots that are down playing what happened, please GROW UP or at least go spend another 4 years in high school until you get your shit together!

For all those with sense and integrity, KEEP HATING!

Jordan
04/09/08 @ 1:06pm

Clarification for all of you who apparently do not understand how to read. He threw one (not multiple) can (not bottle) and did not in any way shape or form enter an area within 10 feet of a police officer.

Dan
04/09/08 @ 1:13pm

Jordan, he or she has a high GPA in the Arts and Humanities college (or as I like to call it, the 8th circle of hell)? That’s impossible, everyone knows how difficult arts and humanities can be. I have no sympathy for this kid. He threw something at the Police, he deserves to be choked, charged and kicked out of school.

fjsdk
04/09/08 @ 1:13pm

A freshman walks out to Cedar Fest and starts throwing bottles? Shouldn’t he be sitting in the library?

10 ft?
04/09/08 @ 1:15pm

Who cares if he entered within 10ft or not of an officer? That’s not the offense he is being charged with. If you read the article or at least talked to George (who presumably you are friends with) you will find that he is being charged with disorderly conduct.

I believe that you are correct in saying that this is a local ordinance, but believe me this WILL turn into a felony charge of inciting a riot. Not only that, he will likely be suspended from the University if he hasn’t already.

Jordan, I have no doubt that when Fraser isn’t drinking and drunk off of liquid courage and stupidity that he is a decent person. However, he committed a crime and should be held responsible for that. This isn’t a witch hunt with him. He admitted to the crime. Public embarrassment isn’t enough of a penalty to repay society for his actions. Cedar Fest and riotous behavior is something that needs to stop. It’s time people are shown that the University and City mean business.

Ed Hightower
04/09/08 @ 2:43pm

See ya Georgie, hope you enjoy your time in jail.

Good luck getting a college degree from a college that doesn’t end in CC.

MSU will not miss you.

DUNY
04/09/08 @ 4:04pm

urrrrked is a tool as well. oh well.

Sigh
04/09/08 @ 5:57pm

Urrrked is not a tool.

To those people changing their wills to withdraw their donations to MSU, I guess it’s your money and you can do what you want with it. But this wasn’t a University sponsored event, and you punishing the school and the good students (like yourself who “never rioted, never broke the law”...yeah, me too) doesn’t really solve any problems related to this incident. Horticulture and flowers around campus are important whether people are misbehaving off campus or not.
(In fact, I seem to remember flowers around the library. Where I, and a lot of other alum, used to spend considerable time. Studying. Hmmm.)

And as I said in a post to another article, it’s pretty unlikely that your MSU degrees did nothing to contribute to your success in life. (Why would you be “proud to say” that your MSU degree did “squat” for you?)

Pissed off Taxpayer!
04/09/08 @ 6:20pm

I cannot believe that the City decides that this is a good use of my taxpayer dollars. I pay higher property taxes than I would if I lived in Manhattan, and what do I get for it? Oh, I know what I get for it. Uneducated, incompetent police officers like Derek Wo-whatever the hell his name is. I’d rather have the military in place than this amateur collaboration of city and county “police”

DUNKY
04/09/08 @ 6:48pm

Sigh is a tool as well. Face it sigh, a toolish tool full of tool-shed-like actions and beliefs.

Get Your Facts Straight
04/09/08 @ 6:51pm

“What this article FAILED to include is the fact that George was also physically choked by an undercover cop who did not identify him as such. “

Hmmmm, sounds like it wasnt a cop at all, maybe it was someone he hit with a bottle.
By the way, he was only seen throwing one bottle that does not mean he didnt throw more. Should the police of waited to see if he threw more risking the safety of others?

I feel bad that he made this decision but he must live with the consequences.

And just so everyone knows the ACLU is the same group that protects NAMBLA, (North American Man Boy Love Association) this is a group of child molestors that talk about how to seduce young boys to have sex with them.

ali
04/09/08 @ 6:52pm

Welcome to the adult world Fraser. My law experience says you might be able to fight it…if E. Lansing and MSU sanctioned the party and riot. IF not your a big piece of burnt toast. Us Detroiters know how equal justice is, you gonna get some of ours.
TOAST FRASER the ERASER. ERASED from the rolls of good ol mooo u.

David
04/10/08 @ 1:14pm

I think I’m a bit older than most of you…I was at Cedar Fest in 1987. The “Big One.” The one referenced in many of these articles as the one that caused the clamp-down. I was curious; so I went to see and be a part of it. At midnight, the stupidity started breaking out and you know what I did? I started walking home. I didn’t flip a police car; I didn’t burn a couch; I didn’t pull down a lamp-post or stop-sign; and I certainly didn’t heave an object into the air (and would not have even if I had been guaranteed to hit a Michigan Fan in his flabby rear-end). Had 3,500 other people done the same thing last weekend, we wouldn’t be here. And George wouldn’t be trying to sell his green-and-white apparel on eBAY to fund his Legal Defense Fund.

Personal responsibility and itegrity, folks. Don’t know where this is being taught anymore…but fewer and fewer people are learning it. I’ve heard integrity defined as: How you act when no one is watching.

George chose to act the way he did on the edge of a riotous crowd. He also chose to admit, to a reporter, that he “only” threw one can. So, in addition to lacking integrity, evidence points to George lacking a considerable dose of intelligence.

bach
04/10/08 @ 8:54pm

You’re an idiot David.

David
04/10/08 @ 11:41pm

bach: Noteworthy contribution to the discussion. Eloquent, well-thought out, internally consistent and supported by cultural references both historical and contemporary. I’m actually tearing up at the beauty of it.

I look forward to your future pearls of wisdom.

bach
04/11/08 @ 1:34am

Thanks David. That meant a lot.

You’re a noteworthy jerk.

Yay!

Cool
04/12/08 @ 2:42am

Most people still fail to realize it was a can, not a bottle.
For being toast, he’s actually fine. He will just end up getting a misdemeanor with a lot of community service. So that means staying in school.
I don’t understand why people are so hateful towards him. He’s not a murdering felon.
Another thing that has failed to been mentioned was the sheer fact that the whole reason that people were ripping up stop signs and throwing beer bottles was to, in fact, get tear gassed. People think that getting tear gassed is the coolest thing ever and the sign of the ultimate party. All george did was mistakingly take part in something he probably didn’t realize was going on.
I personally think everyone should just stop arguing about the matter because frankly we have no say or control over what ends up happening.