Cedar Fest suspensions
The 28 MSU students arrested during last weekend’s Cedar Fest each could face an interim suspension.
To be charged, a student’s actions must have demonstrated a “clear and present danger” to the community, including throwing objects, starting fires or interfering with the police.
The university’s judicial process differs from East Lansing’s process in that MSU only can suspend a student, whereas East Lansing can press criminal charges.
Source: Lee June, Vice President for Student Affairs and Services
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MSU students involved with Cedar Fest might face suspension
Lee June
MSU’s decision of whether or not it will punish students involved with the Cedar Fest riot with interim suspensions will be made this morning, said Lee June, vice president for student affairs and services.
“We’re in the final stages now, but we won’t be able to release where we are until early (this) morning,” June said Tuesday evening.
The 28 MSU students arrested during the riot face the possibility of interim suspension. To be charged, a student’s riot actions must have demonstrated a “clear and present danger” to the community, June said.
“In a general sense, it’s something that endangers the health or a person’s safety,” he said. “It has to be somebody who was committing egregious acts such as setting a fire, or throwing bottles or interfering with police.”
East Lansing police Chief Tom Wibert said Tuesday that East Lansing police and the university wanted to take action against the offenders as soon as possible.
“I think the sooner that justice can be served the closer to the event, the more effective it is,” he said. “I think there are going to be so many cases that will drag on, but we want to get the worst offenders out of the way.”
The university’s judicial process is different than the city of East Lansing’s process, June said, and some students facing charges from MSU might not face charges from the city, or vice versa.
“We have a judicial process that sometimes runs simultaneously with the city, but they’re independent,” he said. “Being charged with violation of (MSU’s) riot policy isn’t necessarily the same thing as a criminal charge.”
June said any students facing interim suspension will have five days to appeal, in accordance with the university’s judicial process set by Student Life. The student would have the choice of having his or her appeal heard before June or a student-faculty judiciary.
“The hearing is solely to determine whether the interim suspension should be continued or lifted,” June said.
Wibert said there has been strong interaction between the city and MSU since the riot occurred.
“Even from the time of the incident, (associate director of Student Life) Rick Shafer and Lee June were out there with us,” Wibert said. “I think right now, the university and the city are on the same page, and we plan on working together in a partnership. I think we’re going to be a good team.”
MSU President Lou Anna K. Simon said the university will act as quickly and fairly as it can, but the real damage already has been done.
“With technology this is a national or a world story,” Simon said. “Images are worth a thousand words. It may take more than a thousand words to blur the effects of that picture.”
Published on Tuesday, April 8, 2008
Comments
Good
04/08/08 @ 9:56pm
Good, send those little kids back to mommy and daddy.
spartyfan
04/08/08 @ 10:43pm
give em a slap on the back for partying the hardest
SoCal Spartan
04/08/08 @ 10:56pm
HANG THEM UP HIGH, AND LET EM DRY!
really?
04/08/08 @ 11:28pm
grow up SoCal Spartan, your attitude is on the level of the rioters themselves as far as maturity and coherence. as for the suspensions, does “clear and present danger to the community” mean that the girls who flashed are going to be suspended as well?
Steve
04/09/08 @ 6:37am
Suspend every last one of them. Each one of those worthless pieces of shit are responsible for their part in turning this into a disorderly melee. I would love to see East Lansing make an example out of each and every one of them so that people finally get the message.
Steve Sucks
04/09/08 @ 8:22am
I hope you get hit by a car.
glen
04/09/08 @ 8:49am
OF the classes of the 60s and 70s….would you have seen Johnny Engler, Jimmy Blanchard, Miss Debbie, Bubba Smith, Michael Caan,
Johnny Hanna jr, Jimmy Hoffa, Dick Postumus, Joel Fergesson doing something like this…..NOPE......
And you wouldnt have had John Hanna Sr. saying we might slap your hand. That was the time of great leaders with Balls.
What would John Hanna have done, immediate SUSPENSION...and if convicted immediate banning from MSU for ever.
Those were the days where other folks property was respected.
sam
04/09/08 @ 8:52am
to Steve Sucks…shame on you.
Your lack of respect makes you worse than the scumbag rioters.
Dont lower yourself to the gutter level.
Mark
04/09/08 @ 10:23am
Glen,
I call B.S. they probably would have participated. I worked at a exclusive private country club during high school. And, one of the members talked at length about the great memories, from the time period you were referring, of a food fight where the police had to be called in.
glen
04/09/08 @ 10:55am
NO they didnt Mark. I knew em all. Jimmy Blachard was always wearing a sport coat and collecting political favors. He started young at sucking up…did it great too.
and all the Englers would have showed up on campus and pulled Johnny out of school for doing something like rioting. Knew them too.
Bubba cold cocked a drunk student in front of the IM building…cause he was drunk and acting like a ass hole.
That was when there were real Spartans. Now you are right pranks happened, but no damage and no image disruption.
Glen
04/09/08 @ 11:02am
Mark, one bad time i had…working my way through school…i was on the grounds crew and had to mop the basketball floor during half time.
Some of the rich kids were booing at us moppers and MSU was taking a basketball hit and they were throwing toilet paper on our fresh mopped floor. Jud…Toms mentor and my friend..i was 19 at the time and working two jobs. Got up and grabbed a mike and mop. From the mike he said….if anymore toilet paper or dirt hits this court the players will be here..the rest of you wont be seeing this game and then proceeded to help us clean up and remop the floor.
It was awful quite for the rest of the game…and MSU Basketball team made a great comeback….Mid 60s.
The old guys and gals had what it took to make a great school.
My two cents of experience.
GLEN
04/09/08 @ 11:04am
Mark…..you know what its like to WORK and earn you way.
Sam Sucks Too
04/09/08 @ 11:41am
The same to you…
stupid kids
04/09/08 @ 11:56am
suspension? how about EXPULSION! I can’t believe they are getting off so easily. I am ashamed to be going to school with all of these idiots! Do something about this MSU!
Come On Now.
04/09/08 @ 12:18pm
Lets be honest. MSU is one of the biggest party schools on this side of the Mississippi. You CHOSE to come to a party school, so don’t be ashamed of where you chose to attend. I’m not too sure of the classes in the 60’s and 70’s but I bet they had their fair share of fun. This wouldn’t have been a riot if the cops didn’t make it so. Bottom line. Allow block parties, and students wont retaliate.
And it doesn’t help that the news is sensationalizing this. It wasn’t as horrible as they are making it out to be. Girls exposing themselves? Get over it. Everyone at Cedar fest either has breasts or has seen them, so it really doesn’t matter.
Glen. You went to school here in the 60’s? Enough said.
RE: Stupid Kids
04/09/08 @ 12:25pm
Suspension at MSU = Expulsion (for some reason they refuse to ever use the term expulsion)
And, with the Riot Act, the student would be banned from attending any college in the state of Michigan for 5 years (plus no other college in the country will take someone with a riot charge)
So, essentially they are rather F*ed.
Of course with all the problems that have been reported this year about the Judicial system and its corruption, I sure am glad i’m not going to sit before a Judicial Board.
Mark
04/09/08 @ 12:25pm
Glen,
I am sorry, I stand corrected, I have never met those people. It just seems like a lot of people have romantic feelings about the past that become less accurate as the decades pass.
To Glen
04/09/08 @ 1:33pm
You keep talking about these great leaders that “you knew”. Well you said that Bubba Smith punched a kid in the face? Why is that a good thing? That would be assault, my friend. Well I did not know any of these men, I can assure you that the leadership here today has comparable figureheads. As you mentioned about Jud Heathcoate, I am 100% sure that Tom Izzo would do the same thing, I KNOW he would, cause I do know Tom Izzo. Do not act like this university is run by a bunch of idiots.
BTW, I cannot help but call you out on such a lie. You said that this was in the Mid-1960s when Jud came out and did this, well, let’s just say that is not possible. Jud Heathcote did not start coaching at Michigan State until 1976. So stop making up lies about people you “know” and grow up a bit. By all the grammatical errors within your posting, I would guess you are just some fogey who does not know left from right, or up from down.
RE: To Glen
04/09/08 @ 3:51pm
Actually, if Bubba Smith did that it would not be assualt but battery, my friend. I now find all of your comments unworthy.
glen
04/09/08 @ 4:28pm
i am a huge tool. i wasn’t there to witness anything that happened, but back in my day we hung em high. i’m a model citizen and have never made a mistake in my life. shame on anybody that was there trying to have a good time. i’ve definitely got some repressed issues because it’s really giving me a hard-on thinking of the punishments these people may recieve.
No
04/09/08 @ 5:00pm
Come On Now. –
I’m astounded at your ignorance. MSU is not just “a party school”. We’ve lead the Big Ten in Rhodes Scholars for 25 years. We are a major research institution in arguably the top academic conference in the nation. MSU’s impact on the nation and world is considerable.
You made the decision to attend this great school. College is not a privilege.
This wouldn’t have been a riot if a handful of idiots didn’t make it so. It’s called personal responsibility.