19-year-old woman sentenced for actions during Cedar Fest

Why would the court need to enter an order restricting illigal activity. It’s illegal and by definition is already restricted.

Does this mean that after 1 year she will be allowed to purchase, possess, and consume illegal drugs? This girl by be worth getting to know.

This means that, as part of her probation, if she purchases alcohol or illegal drugs, and is caught, she will suffer greater consequences (like more/longer jail time). Whereas, without probation they might have let her off the hook with a warning or probation.

This is totally crazy! MCL 769.1g is for people who’s actions lead to a riot! How is this right? I cannot believe that MSU students aren’t in an uproar while East Lansing overly uses its poor excuse for a justice system. What are you doing MSU students?! It’s time Michigan State takes back its town and East Lansing realizes that without MSU, East Lansing is nothing. This isn’t justice, and everyone knows it. Time to take action.

MOST IMPORTANTLY is she good looking? the article failed to mention that critical fact.

Insane: east lansing is not MSU students’ town, you stupid 10 year old jerk. when you get older you may understand. idiot!

Perhaps EL isn’t ‘owned’ by MSU and its students, but without the university EL would just be another mid-michigan town you drive through.

Hey Champ, it was me who posted that under insane, and I’m puzzled how I’m the idiot looking under your post. Consider the facts: 80% of EL is provided by MSU. Want to consider the facts about economic structure? Why don’t you leave this up to people who are intelligent enough to realize that EL is making a very big mistake, mark my words.

I am very glad that the courts are taking a strong stance on this. regardless of who came first the city or the university, it is inappropriate behavior that needs to be dealt with harshly. i just hope that other students over time realize that there is a consequence to actions.

Marc…really? Let’s start issuing the death penalty for MIPs then. For sure it will show that there are SERIOUS consequences for offenses. But back on Earth…what’s the deal? So she flashed her funbags…who cares? Do you really think that’s what led to the riot? Nope. I’ll put my bet on the ELPD showing up in riot gear. Don’t believe me? I DARE you to read the 2003 commission about Cedar Fest. Then we can talk about who’s to blame. Facts are EL does not prevent this. Primarily because they profit from it happening. Roughly about $80,000.

Really – You are telling me that police in riot gear is what causes people to turn into idiots? Is that some kind of joke? So if we see armed soldiers somewhere in public then it’s no wonder we engage in combat with them? The presence of police makes people act like dumbasses… the only dumbass here is you.

Steve is right. the simple presence of the police is not what causes people to turn into idiots. if that were true there would be riots everywhere. the police in 2003 were wrong. i completely agree. but prior actions by the police do not justify lewd and indecent exposure.

It is now 2008. The students that were involved in the riots of 2003 should be graduated by now (assuming they can finish somewhat on time). Stop using that excuse.

Former Football player pleads guilty to larceny of another MSU student. He gets 24 months probation, $860 in fines and 90 days in jail that can go away if he follows the rules of his probation.
Girl commets the misdemeanor offenses of disordely conduct and indecent exposure. She gets 15 days in jail, 1 year probation, $1,994.40 fine and a 1 year restiction from all Mi institutions of higher learning.

This is exactly what Sports Mind Control advocates. Now you know why the public hammered him so mercilessly.

mug shots…

Link: Cedarfest

Football player was sentence in Ingham County Circuit Court by Judge Paula J.M. Manderfield. The lawyer had case moved out of East Lansing Court 54B.
Student’s cannot get a fair trial or sentencing in East Lansing 54B Court. They want to fry every student.
Motion for change of venue if you are about to go to trial in East Lansing!!!!!!!
They welcome students back from summer break. The student money machines have arrived!!!
To all students and families, retain a lawyer if your going to MSU.
East Lansing has more rules and regulations all to tap students for money. Read East Lansing’s home page. Student’s Beware!!!
Just trying to help students. Have a great year at M.S.U..

I took a look at the MSU Police Cedar Riot link. They actually took the time to render a logo that says, “Cedar Fest, not a party anymore…” What a bunch of tools.

I’m curious, did Michelle Sprenkel flash a few “rioters” to be nabbed for that indecent exposure charge? Check that, I’m going to friend her on Facebook.com

The Champ:
Did you look at the mug shots? Haha thoughtfully provided the link this morning.

I’m surprised she only got probation. A better sentence would be a paper-bag over the head for twelve years.

I believe the MSU police are guilty of profiling—they’re all UGLY!!
Is being ugly a pre-req for being stupid?

So an education is something they can bar you from having the “privilege” of access to?
Pitiful excuse for a penalty for college kids being college kids. I’ve seen far worse behavior from people who have gone on to become incredibly productive elements in our society when I was in school in the 80’s. Somehow the folk’s in charge of the rules have lost all sense of perspective.

S.Evans, Welcome to East Lansing now. This town hates student’s. Love there parents money.
Look up 769.1g law. It allows all college towns in the state to throw kids out of school for being college kids.
By the way East Lansing is also trying to buy out Cedar Village and turn it into upscale condos and shops. They want the students gone from this area!
I wish Michigan State would build affordable apartments and a small town on campus. That way all the money would stay at Michigan State. GO GREEN!!!!
East Lansing can get there wish, no students, no money.
Good Bye East Lansing.

I moved to NC after I graduated and seem to have not paid attention to how East Lansing was invaded by people looking for some kind of illusory suburban bliss. I was there when people like Lash Larrow provided a constant reminder to people inclined to try and constrain the joy of freedom of college life. Does anyone stand up for the fun of being in college these days up there? What type of delusions does the city of East Lansing have that they would even exist if MSU students, for decades, hadn’t created their town.

East Lansing sucks. None of these are jailable offenses, most of the people they arrested that night didn’t even do anything wrong. Oh man I hope some kid gets found not guilty and sues the crap out of them for this insanity

S.Evans, NickT, I agree with you TOTALLY. This is taken out of proportion so badly is barely comprehendible. Most of these people did what, throw a can? Flash their boobs? And THAT’S worth the fines, jail time, and being suspended from school? I’m an MSU alum and if there’s anything I’m ashamed of it’s of East Lansing acting like a bunch of pricks. This has been happening for years and from what I hear, this years wasn’t that big of a deal. C’mon spartans! Help out your family! None of us think this is right…do something about it!

East Lansing DOES suck.

I say move the university and let that two bit podunk town rot.

We will see how much “The Champ” (aka the chump) likes it when his house goes from being worth 250k to 50k.

Also, Steve, I know you are an inbred hick who can’t read, so you can’t even read this but for everyone who says Really – You are telling me that police in riot gear is what causes people to turn into idiots?

Maybe MSU alumi can help. As we all know money talks!!! Even at MSU. We need to help these students. East Lansing says it wants to get along with students but you should read all the codes directed at students. They also want students to register there parties with them. Ya, right, how dumb do they think they are. Given 4 or more people together can be deemed a riot in East Lansing.

marc you are a very stupid, vindictive, hypersensitive, and irrational person.

“Steve is right. the simple presence of the police is not what causes people to turn into idiots. if that were true there would be riots everywhere”

Really, Marc? You think seeing a cop car on the side of the road as you walk by has the same immediate social consequences as dozens of police in riot gear surrounding a large group of milling, drunk people? Do you consider yourself a stupid person? You are.

Smokey and [worthless piece of shit] copkiller,

Can either of you two morons show me some proof of this? You both make claims that seeing a cop in riot gear makes you act like an idiot. Can either of you back this up with some kind of legitimate study or something other than your anecdotal idiocy?

Not to mention this girl is accused of indecent exposure. So seeing cops in riot gear causes girls to take off their shirts?

Steve, you’re a moron. Of course we have evidence. As I said before, look up the 2003 commission where sociologists and psychologists testified that cops in riot gear DO have very significant influence. Go back to your day job because litigation clealy isn’t your thing.

Really? Please show me some of this evidence. Show the rest of us this 2003 commission that supposedly says that cops in riot gear make people act like idiots. (I’ll forget about the fact that sociology and psychology testimony is not a scientific study, it is simply the OPINION of a few people)

Steve, I’m currently away from my computer (I’m on my iPhone and can’t copy and paste hyperlinks) however, if you go to city of east landings website you can search it there. As stated before, you suck at litigation. these are only opinions? Yes dumbs*it, the opinions of people who have PhDs and have studyed the mind of an adolesant for years. You want scientific fact? Go study gravity or plants.

It does sound a bit harsh, but we don’t know how she acted in court, if she had a decent lawyer. What we do know is that EL and MSU have a symbiotic relationship that would be much healthier were in not based in conflict. I believe we all learned about sharing and cooperation in kindergarten, didn’t we?

So you are telling me that if something comes gift-wrapped in a PHD that makes it fact and should be taken as gospel? That is some dangerous advice. After all, there are people with PHDs that insist the Holocaust didn’t exist, that we never landed on the moon… shall I go on? The only thing their testimony does is simply reiterate the fact that a large portion of our population are morons.

Steve, so what you’re suggesting is that we specifically shouldn’t trust PhDs because one in hundreds of thousands may suggest we didn’t land on the moon? That it by far the most idoic thing I’ve ever heard. Education makes people less trustworthy? I think not, sir.

Evidence is what we should trust, not some guys opinion just because it comes with a PHD. Show me some evidence. I’d be happy to read some scientific studies to back up their claims.

I am the mother of Michelle and I feel very strongly that the punishment does not fit the crime. A fine would have been sufficient. The night she was arrested she blew a zero and was made to do PBTs daily for over 3 months. Where is the justification in that. Also the jail time cost her her flight attendant job. She is an ambitiuos 18 year old that made a stupid mistake for one second and is being punished too extremely.

Colette, I an a current msu student and I want to stress our shared opinion. What is happening here is not justice, but make no mistake; I am on the forefront of this battle. I encourage you to seek independant justice for your daughter.

Collette you are an idiot for a mother. It’s no wonder she has turned out the way she has. To be honest, I cannot recall the last time I made a “stupid mistake” like that. After all, it’s all part of the college experience apparently showing up to an unlawful gathering to flash the crowd in hopes of getting tear-gassed. I personally enjoy seeing all of these morons taken to the cleaners so that the future idiots of MSU are deterred from such behavior. That way, those of us that actually come to MSU for an education, not just an excuse to act like a dumbass and trash the school’s reputation for 4+ years, can be proud.

Hey, Steve, don’t ever knock my mother on her parenting skills or intelligence. I am fifteen months older than my sister, the one that you included into your “morons” comment, and I want to know just where the fuck you get off calling people “idiots” and “morons” when you don’t have a clue what type of person they are, or the situation they were placed in. There’s nothing I can do except for give you some advice. Next time you want to open up your cock gobbler and give another half-wit opinion, you could piss off a Marine that’s not on the other side of the world. Go fuck yourself you fucking queer.

Collette I did indeed check out your wonderful daughter’s Myspace, and I must say she is in fact very gorgeous… I especially enjoy her “drunkass model pose”. Oh, and I find it so precious that she has pictures of the event that sent her to jail on there. You must be so proud.

To Steve, I would love to talk to your mother to hear about your mistake free childhood. You probably attend MSU because you couldn’t meet the standards of U of M

to Oh Yes, I am proud of my daughter. She has worked since she was 12, honor roll all through high school and has never had a traffic ticket. One mistake in life does not change my opinion. Are your children perfect?

Wow, posting catty remarks on a college newspaper comment board, real mature for parent. I can see where your daughter gets her decision making skills from.

Collette, I don’t have children and I’m sure when I do they will be far from perfect. But let me tell you what, I also worked since it was legal, was on the honor roll in high school, and even graduated with honors and somehow I managed to make it through my college years without flashing my ta-tas to a crowd of strangers. People like your daughter give my alma mater a bad name and that just doesn’t sit right with me!

Collette, I agree the punishment does not fit the crime. East Lansing has issues with students. I would contact the ACLU regarding this. In the past riot a student did the exact same thing and the ACLU fought for the student and won. Aclu has been watching for civil rights issues regarding recent Cedar Fest. As a parent of a MSU student I think it is time the parents of college students ban together and stop this nonsense.

Steve,

The sight of officers in riot gear undoubtedly stimulates the amygdala, which causes adrenaline to be released into the brains of pretty much anyone around. Under normal circumstances, this should be enough to trigger a ‘fear response’, which would tell an individual to avoid the situation.
However, when large groups of people are gathered together, at night, and there is alcohol involved, the brain is far likelier to activate a ‘fight response’ to this stimulus.

Yes what i did was obviously not the smartest decision i’ve made throughout my life i am not afraid to admit that. I attended that riot to show my support for MSU i had no planned intention of exposing myself to the crowd. There are such things as stupid mistakes and that night is the perfect example of one. Im not saying i dont deserve to be punished i just feel that the punishment given to me is a little extreme for the crime.

Michelle, Good Luck with your future. I hope it means coming back to MSU. Yes, we all make stupids mistakes. I know many students who attended Cedar Fest. They are all fantastic people. Youe deserve the right to attend college and make mistakes. Don’t let some of these people online get you down. They don’t even know you. Nether do I, but I hate idiots. I am a MSU mom and your mother is right.

Michelle is my best friend, I was standing next to her the night she was arrested. Shit was crazy! Anyway, she was my DD, she hadn’t had a drop to drink that whole night, yet she still gets probation for this where she can’t drink? Ummm, how does this make sense? Unfortunately Michelle is being made an example of. Hey kids, don’t show your funbags, you’ll go to jail. Sorry Michelle, i’m not questioning why you where arrested, I think thats fair, but the punishment and fines you recieved is not. I’ll be at the next cedar fest, i’ll just wear my riot gear too!

i like how she is prohibited from buying booze for a year, someone really must’ve done the math right to determine that a 19 year old still won’t be able to buy booze a year from today…and anyway, this is when having canada right across the river becomes her greatest allie if she wants to get liquored up…perhaps they should’ve put a teether on her kwame style?

So let me get this straight, your “evidence” is that in a crowd people tend to act towards police in riot gear in a “fight” mode. I wasn’t aware that showing your chest to a crowd of people was a survival technique. I am curious as to where in the evolutionary process that has helped humans survive. I also find it a bit humorous how you compare a bunch of drunk idiots with the police in the vicinity to the Nazi control of Germany.

for real steve if your so intelligent and so much better than everyone else why the hell are you running your mouth about everyone! that just makes you as bad as everyone you think your better than. You could have just made one little comment voicing your opinion but no you had to make yourself look like a jackass by arguing back and forth with everyone like a little 12 year old girl! if anyones the idiot it really looks like you right about now!!!

I agree with Seriously. I’m getting tired of hearing Steves opinion. Hey Steve, you voiced your opinion now go away. We’ve heard enough from you.

I agree with Interested and Seriously. This guy Steve has some real issues. He needs to get a life!!! He is taking this Cedar Fest far to personal. These kids did nothing to him. I think he a has mental health problem. He needs counseling!!!

To “Support The Students” Thank you for the advice to contact ACLU. I will let you know what happens.

Although the penalty for the flasher seems harsh, I am certain she must be held responsible for her senseless behavior and profound idiocy. DO NOT blame the culture, peacefulness, and vibrancy that defines East Lansing. And NEVER blame Michigan State – an institution that has helped transform our state, the country, and world. The individuals who participated in the disturbance chose to do so and took the risk of consequences. You can have a good time drinking without being stupid. When it comes down to it the girl was acting stupid and I am sure will never flash in public again. GO GREEN!

To Rob, Yes she does deserve punishment, our complaint was that the punishment was harsh. Especially since she wasn’t drinking that night and that all her daily PBT’s were zero for the following three months. She is being punished for crimes she never committed. She should only be punished for the crime she committed.

To Steve, again, the whole issue is as stated to Rob. She isn’t saying she doesn’t deserve punishment, just not so harsh. Also, why are you referring to vandalism, she never did any of that. You should read and think before making your comments.

from the mother of Michelle

Also, to Steve regarding Nicholas. I hope you don’t think any of your comments are intelligent in any way. At least he’s man enough to become a Marine and defend his country rather than mouth off about a university. Have you served your country? Duh!!

Collette, you are absolutely ridiculous. Do you even read what you’re writing? If so, how do you NOT realize how CHILDISH you sound?

You’re condoning your son calling a perfect stranger a “fucking queer” as a legitimate insult. Is that how you raised your children, to be homophobic assholes who flash there lady parts to the world? Being a Marine has obviously done nothing for your son to prove that he’s a man, a REAL man wouldn’t fling pointless insults at people who are JUST STATING THEIR OPINIONS.

And “DUH!!” COME ON, you’re an adult, start talking like one!

Hey Oh Yes, Back at you

Collett, Here is ACLU information.
Collette,
Here is ACLU information. Hope it helps.

Michael J. Steinberg, Legal Director
American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan
60 West Hancock Street
Detroit, MI 48201
(313) 578-6814
fax (313) 578-6811

To Help the Students

Thank you. I emailed aclu@aclumich.org but will also call that number tomorrow.

Collette, If we don’t fight for our kids no one will. Best of luck to Michelle. I hope she comes back to MSU. She deserves a college education. I live in a community outside of Lansing and have a MSU student. East Lansing has issues with students. The police feel threatened. For some reason they are overwhelmed with the number of students in there community. You’d think they would understand, but they don’t. East lansing funds there town by ticketing students. I am very upset with there treatment of all these students. I intend to support these kids any way I can. Someone has to be on there side.

I didn’t know that having an opinion on an issue and sharing it on statenews.com was a mental disorder. It’s not in the DSM4 so I guess I’ll have to look forward to it being added to the DSM5 in a few years.

Also, I am not sure where I said anywhere that Michelle vandalized anything. Rather, it was an analogy to committing another type of crime and some how getting good grades would vitiate my responsibility.

Additionally, I am not sure where being in the military was germane to the topic at hand.

Steve,
Trashing fellow MSU students just is not right. Each of these students got caught up in moment. Some of them where arrested prior to the Cedar fest riot. Some where even arrested leaving the area at 10:00pm after watching from Grand River. So trashing them is not right. Some of the kids arrested did indeed cause a major problem that nite and should be given jail time.

First of all and by far most of all, I have known this family for along time and they are very fine people. Beyond that I am happy to read all the supportive people on their side, they should have that support. I as a mother know the trials and the difficult task of raising kids, and know one person has a book to read how to do it. Us parents do the best we know and that is all we can do. The punishment was way beyond the crime.

OH AND BY THE WAY IT SHOULD OF BEEN “…KEPT your MOUTH SHUT….Don’t even go there, I just got off of a 16 hour shift. Sorry I didn’t do my spell check…I HAVE A LIFE………

Steve- in a usual situation I would have just beat the living hell out of you and that be that. Unfortunately, I’m stuck way the hell over here and must resort to childish name calling to express my anger. I just assumed you were gay by having so much free time on your hands while attending school. I know when I hung out at MSU, the last thing I would ever do was to go floating around the web and making fun of people. It’s called a “social life” you might want to give one of those a go instead of playing on your porn box. Also, Reserves don’t count… FAG

“Trashing fellow MSU students just is not right.”

-Trashing our school’s reputation is not right. Those that do ruin MSU’s reputation should be used to make an example out of.

“Each of these students got caught up in moment.”

-Each and every person there CHOSE to be there.

Collette,
Here the case for reference regarding ACLU case won against East Lansing.
Woman Ordered to Pay Restitution for Exposing Breasts – A Michigan State University student was charged with indecent exposure for briefly “flashing” her breasts during a street gathering following MSU’s loss in the NCAA basketball tournament last year.

If the gathering was so illegal steve why didn’t the police just block that street off earlier on in the night. They knew the whole day that people were trying to do the cedar fest that night, they had plenty of time to get there back up in and find a way to stop the riot before it even happened. Did you ever think of that smartass!! Oh yeah… the kids arrested at the riot didn’t give MSU a bad reputation if you haven’t noticed MSU has had a rep for years. If you dont like the thought of your college having a bd reputation maybe you should have thought a little harder abut going to one of the top party schools in Michigan!!!

If anyone out here is interested the 769.1g may have civil rights issues. It addresses students and does not effect public in general.
We need to question our law makers on this. Contact ACLU and fill a complaint. A law should not single out one group or individual.
Plus it can be added to charges after the fact. This law has large holes in it. I think it needs to be questioned.
Steve,
So you get a ticket and show up court . The judge sees that you were in a general area and tacks on another charge?

steve obviously your not as smart as you want to sound. Go about three of your comments back and read it over you said something to michelles mother about it being okay for you to come vandalize their home.