Halloween not just an excuse to roam streets scantily-clad

Grow up Peter Pan, Count Chocula, I want to be cowboys from Arizona or pimps from Oakland, but it’s the fourth quarter of the big game” and you’re talking crazy.

Its not an excuse, it’s a reason!!!!

So, Erin Miller, I take it you’re dressing as a straw man for Halloween.

Welcome to the 21st century, where women can wear whatever they want as a means of self-expression.

ogling and calling people slutty is my form of self-expression, welcome to the 21st century.

College girls DO use Halloween as an excuse to dress slutty, not just at MSU, but everywhere! And I’ve never heard of a guy disapprove, why do you think we love Halloween so much? It’s not for the Candy (gave up trick-or-treating years ago); its not for the drinking (college guys binge drink 3 nights/week minimum); you guessed it, its for the Ladies’ costumes. Surely a thing of beauty

OH! How dare she use a STRAW MAN argument in her article! OH MY! How dare she not be perfectly logical at all times, how DARE she make some sort of fallacious argument! Dear God. Give me a break, HAH, and try responding with something a little more interesting than that nitpicky bullshit.

I disagree with this letter. There’s a difference between a nurse and a “sexy” nurse. Or an angel with a long flowing robe and an angel with a corset and booty shorts. Even if you take issue with the word slutty, I don’t think you can deny that some women use the day as an excuse to dress in an overtly provocative way that often would not be acceptable in general society (just as some men use it to dress in an overtly lewd way, as the writer mentioned).

Here in France la sexay costume, it tell me what girls are… how you say “respectable” and which girls are se easy. It saves MAJ Handi time figuring out who to buy drinks.

Hey Guy, lighten up. Life is too short to be so dour.

How come the girl that wrote this article doesn’t have her picture up at the top like every other article on this website?

“If a woman wants to express herself sexually, why do we feel the need to immediately condemn her?”

Perhaps you’d prefer a different euphemism than slutty? Provocative? Revealing? You’ve clearly agreed with the fact that women can dress however they want, and in the case of an overly risquee outfit they are expressing themselves as a creature of sex. So if that’s the case, you can use whatever term you like, but the result is still the same – a woman dressing in a way that emphasizes her erogenous zones. Perhaps your time would better spent on WHY.

“And if she only feels comfortable doing so on Halloween, when society provides a tidy excuse for her behavior, maybe the problem isn’t the woman’s, maybe there’s a problem with the society instead.”

Yes, yes, boo hoo on society for a woman not having sufficient self esteeem. Boo hoo for there still being some kind of moral code. If dressing in skimpy clothing equates to good self-image, maybe you should gather up a gaggle of tweens and take them down to Victoria’s Secret and get them good an dolled up. Maybe then you’d have some well-adjusted young women on campus. /sarcasm

Hey Mom, you’re an idiot. My point was that even if you don’t want to call it slutty, that’s how a lot of girls dress for halloween. You don’t see similar outfits at bars on a warm Saturday night. It doesn’t bother me, but to say it isn’t slutty, or intentional, or a choice (and this writer did all three) is wrong.

Guy – I guess I just read the letter as an indictment against male hypocracy in our society. As the actual mother of the letter writer, I don’t want to see my sweet baby girl (or anyone’s baby girl) all tarted up, but I will defend their right to do so. Of course with every right comes a responsibility, so I say to all you skimpily clad ladies, “If you dress for a reaction, don’t be surprised when you get one.”
As for the idiot comment, I’m sure Erin would agree with you!

“…ogling and calling people slutty is my form of self-expression…”

So what does that express about yourself?

You’re right ladies, dressing that way does not make you a “slut,” but you are wearing a whore’s uniform and you must admit that’s pretty damn confusing….

Hey SpartyBen. They didn’t put my picture by the article because I don’t actually work for The State News. It was just a letter to the editor. If it’s really important to you to see what I look like, you can find me on Facebook. I’m probably the only Erin Miller with a double major in English and physiology.

And Guy, you’re right, it is a choice on some level to dress slutty, and you know what? It should be okay for women to make that choice if they want. But I also wanted to point out that there are, in fact, other factors at work, even if men don’t necessarily realize that they’re there. (If you don’t have to deal with them on a daily basis, my guess is you’re probably not going to be especially tuned into them.) Also, there is a startling difference between how we perceive a sexually forward costume worn by a man (funny) as opposed to one worn by a woman (slutty).

Ok Erin, I see… well, there are TWO Erin Miller’s that go to MSU, and they are both private profiles.
From what I can see, one of the Erin Miller’s has a picture from a recent trip to a 21 and over bar, wbut had to have a big “X” stamped on her hand, a lot of eye makeup, and has a REALLY LOW CUT shirt on.

Or…… you could be the Erin Miller posing, doing the usual “look-up-at-the-sky” pose that girls do, wearing a short skirt, and crossing your legs so I can practically see your butt.

I have a feeling you are going to have an awesome halloween outfit!

:thumbs-up:

Nice letter, Erin. You make a very valid argument.

I’m appalled at the negative responses you have received. Then again, it must be easy to endorse society’s double standards when one has not been subjected to them.

Alex, you are really ignorant. SpartyBen, you seriously looked her up on Facebook? Get a life.

I agree with this article. And I’d rather have a bunch of scantily clad women around on halloween than men in some of the “funny” costumes they wear. It’s so ridiculous that people are more concerned with seeing a woman’s body, than with some of the offensive “funny” things men dress up in, which draw their humor solely from mocking and putting down other people (like men dressed as fat women, et cetera).

And I also agree, I am sick of the men on this campus (and off) who put down women for doing exactly what they want women to be doing. If you do it, you’re a slut who clearly doesn’t respect onself, if you don’t you’re a prude, no fun, and these men aren’t as interested in being around you. Many are probably the same men who look down on women for sleeping with them, because for a woman to make that same choice he just made shows a lack of self-respect.

lmao “vote with your pants and keep them zipped”
love it

Oh, and after reading some stuff elsewhere I would like to make specific mention (I said “et cetera” but this deserves specific mention I believe) of the “funny” costumes for men, somehow more appropriate than “sexy” costumes for women, such as “mexican man” costumes that I also think should be getting far more negative mention than seeing some cleavage.

I’d also like to point out that the title the state news gave this letter does not seem very descriptive of the actual letter.

“Many are probably the same men who look down on women for sleeping with them, because for a woman to make that same choice he just made shows a lack of self-respect.”

You are approaching this from a false premise. I have no self-respect. That is why I look for the girls that dress like tramps. They’re easy.

I actually find that more often, it’s other women that are complaining and calling women “sluts” for dressing like that.

Just like with other peer pressures. When women get married and don’t want to change their name, where does the pressure to change their name come from? Generally other women in this day and age (from other women who are insecure about their own decision and feel they must defend it mindlessly).

http://www.filehurricane.com/media/1493

http://sfdixit.blogspot.com/2007/12/envy.html

1) Erin…you’re awesome.

2) The guys at my halloween party were significantly more slutty than the chick (one had nothing but a drawstring backpack and a flashing light on), but he didn’t get the dirty looks that the girls did. I hope that guy didn’t sit anywhere…