YAF not 'good candidates' for campus night patrol

Well, now we know J. Edward Tremlett’s real name! Also, you’re right. Count on a hate group to protect campus? Something doesn’t make sense here.

Typical liberal/communist/socialist attack. Just like the protestors at Chris Simcox speech

Thanks for the free publicity. SLWS!

“Typical liberal/communist/socialist attack”

Yeah, except I hate commies, and I have footnotes.

First off: the line should be “Usually he’s bashing leftists, whom he intimates should be deported and/or executed…” I don’t recall seeing Kyle say they should, but he sure makes some big hints, hence “intimates.” Of course they’d change that to “says,” probably because most people think intimates is lingerie.

Hates diversity

“Let me get this straight (no pun intended): You think that I am a closeted homo, because I think homosexuality is perverse? By your logic, I must be a liberal at heart, because I think liberalism is a perversity. I must also be a secret fan of diversity and multiculturalism, because I hate both diversity and multiculturalism.”

It’s not liberal/communist/socialist attack. It’s a well-spoken response that you cannot deny, SLWS. YAF does not inspire to respect and befriend racial, social and religious differences, but instead they only make the problem worse by bashing and protesting. Just what America Needs right now, right? What is pretty hilarious is looking at their website photographs. They’d be like a group of sixth graders showering with the varsity out on that campus!

Well said J. Edward. Nail on the coffin.

Leftists:

There’s several examples, but here’s a prototypical one

“Augusto Pinochet would have known what to do in order to deal with these leftist college students. I have a feeling that the plan would involve soccer.”

(‘Soccer’ then links to a post about how Pinochet killed dissidents at Chile’s National Stadium)

There was also this amusing poll here

How Can We Save the West?

”Deport or jail all the liberal trolls – 9 votes (20%)
Force liberals to undergo reeducation – 1 vote (2%)
Perform lobotomies on liberals, then deport them – 4 votes (9%)
Have a coup like Franco – 18 votes (41%)
Oswald Spengler was right: The West is doomed – 11 votes (25%)

Those who voted to “have a coup like Franco” won. When the coup is organized, let me know so that we can coordinate actions via this blog.”

Homosexuals:

Take your pick, but this is the saddest one

Read the sad story, and then scroll down and look at Kyle’s comment.

“What a freak he/she/it was.

Tell me, did this thing visit rest stop bathrooms, too? Was it HIV positive?”

Muslims

“Just for the record, I do not think that Islam should be allowed at an “academic institution of learning and enlightenment.” Over the last 1,300 years, what has Islam contributed to the world except for slavery, war, terrorism, and oppression? I do not apologize for not approving of a heresy.”

Jews

And here’s Bristow’s sorry attempt to claim he wasn’t Jew-bashing on the poll

Council of Conservative Citizens and the pro-white blog

“Spartan Spectator [Hooray!]”

Here’s another

(Note that our friend Jason Van Dyke congratulates them in that post)

And here’s a really sad thing: speaking of protecting women from assault. He actually went on the warpath against some student (MSU, I think) because she stated she didn’t like MSU YAF on her facebook profile. He did a total hatchet job on her, which you can read here

So here’s the question that all that raises: can gay, muslim, jewish, non-white and leftist students be told, with a straight face, that any night patrols organized by YAF are going to be for their benefit as well? Or should they be worried that they’re going to be either left to their own fates, or hassled by their “protectors.” And should groups of those students be worried that they’ll have the campus cops called on them because they looked suspicious?

I have my own answers to those questions, based on what I’ve found above. And that’s why I don’t think MSU YAF are the right people to be organizing safety patrols. I’m sure Kyle will have something to say in response to that, of course.

And you’re very welcome for the free publicity, JVD. When should I expect a cease and desist order? Or are you incapable of suing more than one critic at once?

I often wonder why Jason Van Dyke cares about what happens at MSU. Jason dropped out of MSU in the late 90’s and moved to Texas. He apparently graduated from a college down there as well as law school. He’s a Texas lawyer and I have to wonder why a Texas lawyer would not only care about what happens at MSU but I also have to wonder how it is a lawyer has so much time to play around on the State News web site. So I ask you Jason, why do you care so much about the school you dropped out of?

Mike, from what I read, he’s still pissed that he got in trouble over carrying a rifle across campus during hunting season. And because of this, he’s convincing all these kids in YAF to create as much controversy on campus as possible in the hopes that another campus group or the administration itself attempts to shut the group down. That way he can get his revenge by suing the university.

While JVD may deny this, if you’re a long time follower of his posts on topics like this, you can see he’s practically chomping at the bit looking for a way to sue the university. (Well maybe not him personally, but a well funded right wing group with better lawyers.)

Is there a policy at MSU regading use of vigilante groups like what YAF is proposing in their “patrols?” Sounds more like brownshirts looking to cause trouble then a student group trying to ensure safety. Sort of like the Hitler Youth claiming to be protecting Jewish business interests.

Beau: I don’t know that there is. According to the article at the LSJ they seemed to be taking a ‘hands off’ approach.

MSU police spokesperson Sgt. Florene McGlothian-Taylor said her concern was YAF not try to confront criminals directly.

“The thing we don’t want to get into is individuals taking various situations into their own hands,” she said.

Also of interest in the article – there has not been a “rise in crimes of a sexual nature” at MSU, as MSU YAF claims, and the last time a rape occurred along the so-called “rape trail” was three decades ago.

But you know… any excuse for a night on the town. At least they’ll have t-shirts made up so you’ll know who to avoid.

SLWS,
I never knew how good a singer Chris Simcox is. Well done.

YAF is just trying to be like the militia men down in AZ and TX. JVD probably gave them the idea. Why doesn’t YAF just move down to Texas and go nuts, they’ll fit in better down there.

Good work, Mr. Compson. It’s funny how many links Mr. Tremlett tossed out to support his argument, considering he apparently didn’t have the decency to follow my link.

My original post was a test. It was obviously a joke, and the only people who wouldn’t realize that are those so arrogant, presumptuous and certain that they would argue against someone without fully considering their views. Good work Tremlett & bystander. You have shown you are no better than the fools in MSU-YAF.

I Agree

I should also include Mr. Van Dyke in my assessment of arrogance and presumption.

ugh, wrong link above
here

Mr. Tremlett,

Let me see if I understand you. YAF has proposed organizing night patrols on campus to deter rape and violent crime. You think that’s a bad idea because you claim YAF is incapable of respect and fair-mindedness.

What group, exactly, do you have in mind that should organize night patrols that will calm your fears by providing respect and fair-mindedness to those who would commit rape and violent crime?

I hope this plan doesn’t go through, ‘cause there’s only one thing that will come out of it — a bunch of skinhead boys getting pummeled by some “suspicious” football players walking back to the dorms after a night at the bars.

What group, exactly, do you have in mind that should organize night patrols that will calm your fears by providing respect and fair-mindedness to those who would commit rape and violent crime?

gee, i dunno…maybe the police? campus security?

“hmmmm…”

So how, exactly, would they apply respect and fair-mindedness to would-be rapists and violent criminals? Only arrest half of them?

SLWS, I am now dying in laughter. Damnit. In all honesty, I saw the first four things you had listed, and went right to typing. Nicely done, brother.

Also, Todd. They’re called Law Enforcement.

Bystander,

So that means they’ve reduced the rape and violent crime rate to zero, right?

“It’s funny how many links Mr. Tremlett tossed out to support his argument, considering he apparently didn’t have the decency to follow my link.”

I wasn’t tossing out links to support my argument in opposition to what you posted. I had the list ready to go, ahead of time, as I expected YAF’s amen corner to drop in and accuse me of taking quotes out of context, and wanted to have the proof all ready to go. In fact, I sent the list to the op-ed editors when they called in case they needed to do some fact-checking, given the serious accusations I made in the letter.

Now, I DID use your comment to segue into those links, yes. But that’s as far as your silly little “test” motivated anything in that post.

“My original post was a test. It was obviously a joke, and the only people who wouldn’t realize that are those so arrogant, presumptuous and certain that they would argue against someone without fully considering their views.”

Given that you have arrogantly and presumptuously assumed that my post was in response to yours, when in fact it really wasn’t, I don’t think you have any reason to declare anyone a fool.

And I’d rather be a fool than someone like Kyle Bristow or his supporters, thank you very much.