Obama's MSU debut

Hooray for the ObaMessiah! Only he can bring about Socialist change to America. We must crush the Capitalist Imperial system. Only then can we truly be equal when we remove ALL wealth from the rich and give it to the working class. Also, Israel must be destroyed….

I am a retired MSU Spartan (class 1964) who has realized this week with urgency that we have to throw out all of the bums currently running our government. When my Wachovia Bank of North Carolina, third largest in the nation, failed this past week and my native Belgian wife’s huge Fortis Bank failed in Brussels on the same day we found the majority of our retirement savings at serious risk. Thousands of Americans are feeling this economic collapse and contrary to media accounts, we are not afraid; we are very angry. This has never happened before in my 67 year lifetime until the current Republican Administration. But it did happen to my dad during the early 1930’s Republican Hoover Administration at the start of the Great Depression which became a worldwife calamity probably causing World War-II. We need to run the current bunch of fiscally incompetent Republicans out of town all over the nation. I like the way they did it in earlier American eras with tar and feathers, but I realize that would be illegal in our current culture. So the Fall election slogan should not only be “Change” as Obama says, but it should also be “Throw the bums out.” Eric M Filson Largo, Florida 33773

good job, Zack.

Maybe Mike maybe never heard of Social Security and Medicare, both of which are Socialist programs, change brought on because of dumb Hooveresque and Coolidge Republicanism. These programs were needed to help people survive, otherwise there could have been another Revolution.

I dont know… maybe Mike thinks Social Security is bad. That’s your opinion and you have that right. Don’t worry though… because of Republicans spending all of our money to help metropolitan Baghdad and MetroKabul instead of Metropolitan Boston or Metro Kansas City….there won’t be social security for you or me when we are in our late 60s.

Let’s hope Americans are smart enough to vote Democrat, and not dumb enough to vote for the fat elephants.

I’d love to meet people like Mike who don’t like Obama. Who do you want to be president? Jesus?

At this point I have resigned myself to the fact that this commie scum is going to win the election. I take comfort only in knowing that, had it not been for Jimmy Carter, there might not have been a Ronald Reagan. Hopefully Obama won’t actually go down to the national archives and literally put our Constitution through a paper shredder. One day I may want to look back on the document that outlined the rights we were supposed to have – and did have – before Barack Obama took office.

I’m not Mike, but I think Social Security is bad…

Why would I think otherwise considering it’s going to be broke before I’m old enough to collect on it?

Moreover, why would supporting Obama change that fact? How are increasing spending and cutting taxes going to reduce the deficit?

Jason you sound like Senator McCarthy and J Edgar Hoover. Calling obama a commie scum is hilarious. You hope that the constitution doesn’t get put through a paper shredder? Well my friend u are already a tad bit too late. Ever heard of the Patriot Act? Ever heard of the wire tapping the government can do now. Which is a violation of your basic fourth amendment rights. I also guess you’ve never heard of holding “enemy combantants” for years without ever telling them what crimes they’ve been charged with, and also failing to produce solid proof that they ever were indeed terrorist. I guess you’ve never heard of the Geneva Convention which stipulates how POW’s should be treated. Oh yeah I know you already forgot about ABU GHRAB huh? Since bush doesn’t know let me ask you a question. WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION OR THE MASS AMOUNTS OF MOBILE ANTHRAX labs the threatend the safety of our nation? As you can see all of this was done under good old GEORGIE’s administration. HES THE BIGGEST COMMUNIST and the BIGGEST Threat to our safety at home and abroad.

AND TO MIKE…NO NEED TO CRUSH THE CAPITALIST IMPERIAL SYSTEM…IF YOU LEFT YOUR HOUSE lately you would see its done a pretty thorough job of crushing the american people. Well maybe not you. I suppose you make more than 5 million dollars a year. So you don’t qualify as middle clas. LOL

People will always line up ten deep when promised a free handout. Have anu of these people actually taken a monute to wonder how Obama is actually going to pay for all he’s promisisng. Maybe they figure that since the government prints the money it’s not an issue.

At this point I have resigned myself to the fact that this commie scum is going to win the election.

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PALIN ’12!!

In ’12: “Since 2008, the Democrats and their Socialist and Commie pals like Tony Rezko, Richie Daley, Billy Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Rev. Wright, and Father Pflager have caused 5,000,000 good-paying U.S. jobs and $1,000,000,000,000 in U.S. banking deposits to flee to Asia.

“This must end!”

See you in four years.

The crux of the issue began when FDR took the US off the gold standard and turned the monetary system over to the Federal Reserve. Since then, our financial system has been manipulated, and not to the benefit of our citizens. This has been compounded by the insistence of the socialist “leaders” in Congress, i.e., Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, as well as Obama’s chief financial advisor, to demand subprime loans to people who did not have the income to pay a nickel toward the principle of the loan. Don’t blame the Republicans for this mess, it is and has been the socialist undercurrent in our government since Wilson that has eroded the fundamental principles of our economy. Yes, throw the bums out, but this must start with those who have damaged our economy and they aren’t conservatives.

Reality check: How about you take your social darwanism somewhere else. You have NO idea who was the rally and how dare you call working class people and people who are struggling to get through college and people who are losing everything as people who want a handout! I don’t call people who can’t find jobs in a depressed economy people who want a handout.This is the same social bull that the republicans where saying under hoover. I suggest you familiarize yourself with keyenesian economics bro. In case you didn’t know it helped save this country. Waiting for the market to fix itself will mean more americans will be without the basic.(PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM) I myself am a college student who has put myself through college. I push a dust mop till 2 in the morning at the physical plant just to pay for school. Ive cleaned feces and urine off of toilet stools for almost three years just so i can graduate in may. Yet I want a handout because obama wants to make higher education more affordable. If we can afford to give Georgia 1 BILLION dollars after their military conflict with russia(GWB did this by the way)don’t tell me we can’t make higher education more affordable to decent hard working american. But i guess thats socialist propaganda as well.

Mapman
Careful you make to much sense…
Barney Franks Quoted as saying July 2008 everything was great now he blames everyone else…Typical politician
Watch his interview on OReilley just beautiful….
Makes me want to vote Obama,,,,,,

And to MAPMAN: The back drop of this issue does not have anything to with what FDR did back in the 30’s. This issue has everything to do with how the federal government sided with big business through such SUPREME COURT decisions as the Slaughterhouse Cases. From about the 1870’s till the complete decline of the market in 1929 Big Business was given complete control to run over the american worker. They were given total descretion and entrusted to do the right thing by us. As you can see that way of thinking failed miserably. If big business was regulated fm the beginning and not given total authority maybe the depression wouldn’t have hit America as hard.History has constantly proven that you cannot trust wall street and capitalism to run the country’s economy. What you and many people realize is the the social security and so called “socialist acts” FDR emplaced saved this country from complete and total anarchy. Look at what happened in France during their revolution. Matter a fact you don’t even have to look that far back..it is still going on in the world around us.

I need to say a few things, so bear with me.

Everyone always wants to blame Bush for the woes of the U.S. Lest we forget that it was the illustrious Bill Clinton that loosened the requirements for home loans from Fannie May and Freddie Mac. With them offering loans to people that we previously “under qualified” other banks had to follow suit to keep up with the market. The events of September 11th only accelerated the inevitable.

It is also Bill Clinton whose “record surpluses” decimated our military, thereby requiring billions of dollars to bring back to fully operational status. It was a political stunt that he knew would not be his responsibility to repair. Were there WMD’s in Iraq when we invaded? Maybe, maybe not. But, if you go back and watch the tapes of all of the Congressman on TV. Nearly EVERYONE believed that they were there. This was not George W. Bush telling them what to believe. This was the intelligence that we had. Everyone saw the same thing.

As much as Barack Obama would like to say he opposed the war, 1) he was a state senator at the time and really didn’t have a say on the national stage, and 2) the district that he was from was one of the most vocal against the war. Even if he was in favor of it on a personal level, he would have been foolish to speak out against it from a political standpoint.

In closing, before you go out and say “We need to vote for change” really take a look at the records of the 2 people running. Look through all of the BS and make an informed decision. Be a student of history, and not just a sheep that follows what you hear the suits say on TV or at some rally.

By the way, Jason Van Dyke was kicked out of Case Hall when he was in college for keeping guns in his dorm room.

I’m really confused too. Didn’t a certain other current president already do what he says Obama will do? Did we forget the Patriot Act?

Jason,

I hope that you realize the irony of the ‘put the Constitution through a paper shredder’ line.

Which President has done more than any to severely increase executive power (the biggest fear of the framers of the document)?
Which party proposed the PATRIOT Act?
Which party has suspended the writ of habeas corpus twice?
Which President has largely ignored the IV-VI Amendments?
Which President violated the VII Amendment by officially allowing torture?
Which President ignored the X Amendment by temporarily seizing control of the National Guard (states’ rights, anyone)?

So tell me, Jason, how exactly is Obama going to ‘shred the Constitution’? More directly, why should anyone believe that the Constitution is under greater threat from the Democrats than the Republicans?

Got any specific examples? If not, shut the hell up.

Reality check: How about you take your social darwanism (sic) somewhere else. (sic)

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Those who think Slick Barry is going to save them — good luck. Ask Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright, et al. Politicians use you, until they get elected. Then, you’re nothing.

We’re our brother’s keeper. It’s not a blank check.

And a college degree does NOT guarantee anyone a job. Just read about Fidel, Mao and Stalin — Obama has the books.

Mike you might have said the smartest thing on here. To every presidential term there will be pros and cons. I stand with you and agree that the clinton presidency had cons. You are right people need to make an informed decsion not just take the politicians word at surface level.

Intelligence for the war in iraq: Mike i think you would agree that when saying that a strike on the U.S. is imminent your inteligence better be top notch. I can almost say with 99% certainty that there were NO WMDS. Mike we have been there 6 years. If WMD existed in the massive quantity’s as the administration said then why haven’t we found them. Better yet Iraq is known for its bitter insurgency. Don’t you think if these weapons existed the insurgents would have gotten ahold of them by now? If the insurgents had access to anthrax and all these chemical and biological weapons that they would have been using them against us by now. That would totally eliminate the need for suicide bombers.

At the heart of the matter is this. My cousin will be going to the front in about two weeks. Him dying is something that is not far from my mind or any other family member or friend of an involved serviceman. AS PRESIDENT you do not send people to war who willingly put their lives on the line for freedom unless you are 100% sure a threat exists. If my cousin does die i would like to know he died serving a purpose and not a failed political vendetta.

This is the hardest part for me because even inspite of OVERWHELMING Evidence that NO WMDs were present people continue to defend the policies of BUSH. How about we step aside from the democrat and republican partisan BS and get down to standing aside what is right or wrong. I would have more respect for republicans if they just admitted they were wrong. Don’t ever let anyone piss on you and tell you its raining outside. George W Bush is a proven deciever, and that is why Colin Powell stepped down after he was reelected. He had the courage to know that bush made him look like a fool!

Sir get a Grip: Are you even voting…thats why its called accountability. If obama doesn’t make serious strides in four years then i won’t vote for him come 20012 ITS CALLED ACCOUNTABILITY. Something most republicans( like yourself /thats if you are) don’t want to hold george bush to

Let me ask all of you this question…
When you work for a living and you get paid, how much of your paycheck should the govt. be able to take? Really seriously how much is to much?
I get so mad that my check has unbelievable amounts taken and i have no say where it goes….At what point is it better to just sit at home and be broke! Because liberal policies will take care of me and i wont have to do a damned thing but collect.
Let me tell you a little story about the liberal policies.Someone i know is unemployed sitting at home collecting disability social security….Do you want to know why? Because hes an alcoholic. He actually gets paid to drink…Now that’s disgusting and I’m working my ass off to put food on my table. Tell me why i shouldn’t do what hes doing laughing all the way to thew bank.The Govt pays his heat bill, gives him food stamps,and pays his freakin rent. Dont that just beat all… And you people will see what i mean when you have a job and have to put food on the table what i mean.Then you’ll be as pissed as i am

The posters who worry so much about the commie scum and socialist taking over politically must come from the far right of the american nazi party to be so whiney. Yeh, maybe this all goes back to Wilson, actually Teddy R, but guess what? Had something not been done to stop the gross siphoning of wealth in this country there would have been a revolution. FDR came to the rescue again “betraying his class” as the shrill diatribes from the political right screamed at the time.The average American worked 10-12 hours a day for maybe a dollar a day. Their kids worked in mills (little fingers are better at lacing spindles ya know) and women, well they counted for very little if they couldn’t work in sweat shops. Most of you guys would not be in college in a pure capitalist society. The industrialist back then were sharks feeding on the working population. The fantasy of the “Golden Age” was just that. Most American worked hard for next to nothing while a small group put themselves up as an aristocrasy based on wealth. Today’s capitalist won’t be happy until we return to those bygone days of paying next to nothing in taxes and drilling wages down to .50 an hour. I keep hearing about redistribution of wealth. It has been redistributed from the middle class to corporate giants who function as monoplies. Oil and gas, drug companies, insurance, health care. Some of this has to come back to the middle or we are going to be in a major hurt. There needs to be a balance between capitalism and social needs, the extreme of either does not work. We are being sucked dry and our government needs to put in place measures to effectively deal with the basic problem. At least the Dems are offering something different as it is apparent that the approach in the last 7 years has failed miserably. My nightmare is that McCain gets elected and the whole thing really comes apart while he stares into the headlights and not because he’s a bad guy but because the same dorks who brought us GW are now running his campaign, Maverick indeed! Gotta go, my gruel is getting cold.

The one thing all of the liberals cant deny. In this country, you can blame and point your fingers at all of the capitalists you want, but YOU can be one also… Just take the chance, JUST LIKE THEY DID, start a company, work hard, and oh yea, PAY UNGODLY TAXES ON YOUR BUSINESS.Thats what makes America the greatest country in the world. NO!!! you want to be handed money for what??? because you have a right to my money? I don’t think so.You want to complain what a business pays? don’t work there. when the business cant find enough workers, he will have to raise his wages.

Sir get a Grip: OH yeah you missed the total validity of my argument becaus you had to me synical like most social darwanists like yourself. YOU are right…getting a degree doesnt’ guarnatee you a job..BUT IT DOES OPEN UP THE DOOR to a better life. Just because a degree doesn’t gurantee you a job, i guess you should just give up and not pursue an education and remain stagnate the rest of your life huh? Im assuming you have a college degree or will be obtaining one soon.( i could be wrong as i don’t know you pesonally) If so why did you go to college if it doesn’t gurantee you a job? What was the whole purpose in that. College is a way for people like myself who come from the GHETTOs of America (i come from benton harbor MI)to make a life better for themselves and their children.(i.e. my 11 month old daughter.) I suggest you think before you speak. You sound 60 years out of touch with reality.

FDR came to the rescue again “betraying his class” as the shrill diatribes from the political right screamed at the time.

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The best PhDs in economics do not agree on FDR’s role — and you think you know more than them? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

World War II saved the U.S. economy. Afterwards, Germany and Japan were in shambles, and the U.S. got fat, happy — and lazy. Just try to get a wall painted on campus.

Want to be Obama’s victim? Then you’ll always be his victim. Good luck.