Column calling for acceptance overlooks Christian population

How about instead of just saying that gay rights affects you, why not give some examples so that I can shoot their legitimacy down before I go to bed?

sorry…I meant ‘gay rights affect you’.

I have to disagree with you. The first amendment allows us freedom of religion; there is not an official religion for the United States. While your religious beliefs tell you that you should love “as God intended”, the rest of us may have different religious beliefs that don’t include the teachings of your God or Jesus, as is our right. It is unconstitutional to limit others freedoms based on one religious belief. I cannot understand how who someone else chooses to love could possibly affect you.

This letter is a good example of why devoutly religious people have a mental illness.

“The fact of the matter is same-sex marriage does affect us.”

Really, Roshelle? Did all hell break loose when homosexual couples began marrying in California before that proposal passed banning same-sex marriages? I have a hard time believing that anyone marrying anyone be they man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman affecting me in any way.

Additionally, I don’t remember Jesus taking any position on homosexuality. Love? Yes. Faith in God? Yes. Homosexuality? Not so much. Are you reading some special edition of the Bible I don’t know about?

And finally if you’re so worried about being accepted as a Christian Roshelle, take a look in the mirror. You and other hardcore religious fanatics are unaccepting others such as homosexuals. What reason do we have to accept the intolerant? Think about that next time before you spew forth such hypocritical bullshit as “The Bible does not say “no” to the homosexuals, it says “no” to the practice of homosexuality”.

Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”

Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them”

1 Cor. 6:9-10, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

Rom. 1:26-28, “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.”

Bible Says. Roshalle.

You really need to pick up the book UnChristian. As a Christian myself, it’s been a unique and powerful read. It’ll help you think outside the box a bit.

Given ACORN’s antics during this past election cycle, I would not be surprised to find Jesus of Nazareth registered to vote in at least one state – including California.

I still don’t see how what the bible says has anything to do with how laws should made.

Quoting Leviticus when I state that I remember nothing about Jesus stating his opinions on homosexuality. Way to go that Mr. Bible Says! Bravo! Let’s bring the Old Testament into a New Testament discussion!

Besides if we want to start bring good old Leviticus into this doesn’t it also mention that the eating of pork is prohibited? Awful lot of Christians that eat pork aren’t there?

Perhaps I’m not making point clear to you knuckleheads. For a bunch of people who proclaim that the Bible is a guide to live by, that its God’s word, you sure set a poor example. Of course then again some of you do not consider yourselves to be bound by all the laws prescribed in the Bible. I mean to cherry-pick laws to serve your point-of-view? How hypocritically Christian of you….

This letter and the responses ignore the most fundamentally important aspect of this issue: the word “marriage” has to mean something. Until the very end of the 20th century, I am not aware of it ever having been used to define anything other than a relationship between man and woman. This is not to say that homosexuality has not existed for a very long time – it very clearly has. In some societies – ancient Greece for example – it even became some degree of acceptance. But I have never heard of a single homosexual relationship – until all of this nonsense began – become defined as a marriage.

Like I have said before, I am really indifferent to gay people. If gay marriage was legalized in Texas, I would probably expand my law practice to include family law. My guess is that gay marriage would increase the number of “marriages” (as the word would be legally defined) which would, obviously, increase the number of divorces. I would take some CLE classes to improve my understanding of the issues, specialize in niche divorce cases, market cheaply to the gay community, and have a very good chance at making a great deal of money —> some of which would naturally be contributed to my church and to conservative causes.

Although I would certainly take advantage of the market in a Machiavellian way, it doesn’t change my opinion that a word like “marriage” has to mean something. Changing it once sets a precedent that the word is open to interpretation. Once that precedent is set, how are we going to deal with Drew Winters and his SPAR buddies when they want to marry their pet sheep?

“I would take some CLE classes to improve my understanding of the issues, specialize in niche divorce cases, market cheaply to the gay community, and have a very good chance at making a great deal of money”

How wonderful Jason… You really do have a heart of gold don’t you?

Jason, do you really think the proponents of gay marriage are worried about the label? Also, don’t go all slippery slope because you’re against animal rights. I’m surprised you didn’t bring up incest for this discussion!

Thank goodness we are discussing this rather than the war or the economy!

“This letter is a good example of why devoutly religious people have a mental illness”

I am a devout Christian with a PhD in chemistry but according to Ken I am metal…???

Jason,

Give it up about ACORN. It’s only voter fraud if someone claiming to be “Jesus of Nazareth” showed up to vote at the polls. Plus, based on what the article claims, Jesus probably would’ve voted for Prop 8, so you’d like it.

“His plan includes homosexuals but excludes the practice of homosexuality.”

Can you be a homosexual without “the practice of homosexuality”? If not, then “His plan” does not include homosexuals, but instead includes their “conversion or salvation” to heterosexuality.

the author’s angry words, she fails to follow what she so passionately wants: the acceptance of others.

I’m tired of this argument from Christians who vote against homosexual rights. You are asking people to accept legal intolerance. That isn’t going to happen and shouldn’t happen. The author and those who opposed Prop 8 want equality, acceptance and tolerance for all, including Christians. That position doesn’t require them to accept intolerance.
If anyone is being hypocritical, it’s the author. Who votes against tolerance and then demands it for their own views.

“I am a devout Christian with a PhD in chemistry but according to Ken I am metal…???”

Probably not. I think Ken is just trying to spread the love, or lack there of. Although to be quite frank, I’ve known quite a few PhD’s and many are quite insane.

I suppose you could be metal, even though you’re a Christian with a PHD in Chemistry. It’s all about the attitude – do you rock it all night long, or do you veg out to Air Supply. Metal is a state a mind.

Wait.

JVD: “Like I have said before, I am really indifferent to gay people.”

I call bullshit:

read here

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and here

If you are really indifferent as to whether someone’s gay or not, JVD, then why does the word “faggot” come out of your mouth whenever you get angry with a homosexual?

That’s like saying you have no problems with black people, and then dropping the n-bomb on them, AFAIC.

OOps, that link didn’t go well. Try this

This is one of the most ridiculous, backwards and insulting letters I’ve ever read. I hope most people have the ability to see the hate that permeates this letter even though the author tries to disguise it as love.

I say let them get married, for the sake of love. However, no legal benefits should be extended. i.e Health Insurance, taxes, etc…
Because that is what this is really about.-Money
Everyone wins.

By the way, I plan to marry my dog Rocky and add him to my health insurance. Vet bills are high for an older dog.