Prop. 1's implications unclear, concern some

If Police Chief Warren is confused about Prop. 1, I suspect it is because he has not read it. The law is very explicit in what type of documentation patients must have to be protected from arrest: a state issued registry ID card. It is no more difficult than drivers’ licenses, which I would hope police would be familiar with. The patients will send their doctors’ written certifications to the department, the department will verify they are not forged, and then issue a card.

First off, patients are not protected by federal law, so they can be pulled over. Even though this was passed, federal law has jurisdiction over state law, so patients aren’t exactly safe from law enforcement.

Also, 30% is not a high percentage. And since Oregon has enacted the Death With Dignity Act, you may want to seek a statistic that does not include a bias. It would be helpful to cite the source where you got this statistic.

its quite easy to find the percentage of docs that have written recommendation. go to the state of oregons medical marijuana programs site and look at the stats. it tells how many doctors have signed. then just look up how many docs are in oregon. and what the heck does the death with dignity law have to do with any of this? biased about cannabis because a doctor can assist someone who shouldnt have to suffer?

I’m not going to debate with you about whether physician assisted suicide is right or wrong, however, if a person is going to cite a statistic, maybe it should be from a state that doesn’t permit it? Again, 30% is not a high percentage, so that is not helping your case. It’s not even at the halfway point. And you said it yourself, that stat is from the OREGON’S MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROGRAMS SITE. Try finding a source that is not biased.

Also if you’re referring to this site link text, your stat is nowhere to be found. Did you pull that statistic out of your ass?

I have no idea why it has taken me 3 posts to declare that you’re a moron, however, looking at that site even further, “Number of Oregon-licensed physicians who have signed applications

(MDs and DOs only) 3,034”

Meaning, that those physicians signed the applications that patients filed in order to use medical marijuana NOT voted for the proposal. Also, I’d love to know how you were able to round up the total number of physicians in the state of Oregon. Jesus Christ, I sure hope you didn’t graduate from MSU because apparently they’re letting quite a few people slip through the cracks.

First off, patients are not protected by federal law, so they can be pulled over. Even though this was passed, federal law has jurisdiction over state law, so patients aren’t exactly safe from law enforcement.

Interestingly enough this simply isn’t true. The Federal government has usurped the natural authority of the states. See, in the olden days it was very clear to all those interested that the power of the Federal government was rather limited.

Ah, the whining of the crybabies. Opponents usually complain about the silliest things when it comes to medical marijuana.

I have to agree with the first poster: it is a license. If a cop can’t accept a State-issued license for ANY activity that the State issues a license for, he has not business being a cop. Period. The requirement to accept the law and uphold it is a basic responsibility of police.

Just so you all know, the DEA can walk in to anyone’s house who is a medical marijuana grower and arrest them for growing it because the DEA doesn’t recognize that law. They’ve done it in California and they’ll do it here.

PS My question is how has smoking ever made anyone physically healthier?

Federales, you are correct under the current administration, medical marijuana patients are being arrested in California. However, President-elect Obama says he will stop the raids in California and that arresting medical marijuana users is a waste of precious limited resources. And even under the current administration, there has only been one federal arrest and the charges were later dropped here in Oregon. I’m certain they would come after Oregonians before they bothered with Michiganders.

Speaking of the DEA, did you know that most of thier activities are run by Byrne grants? Last Christmas, Pres. Bush cut the Byrne grants from $550 million donw to about $120 million. Those cuts took effect FY o8, or at the beginning of October this year. Most drug task forces are run by Byrne grants. With those grants cut so drastically, it is unlikely that there will be funds available for raiding medical marijuana patients, especially if they are protected from State prosecution by a legal license.

Why are people out there so worried about medical marijuana? It doesn’t hurt you. If someone who is in horrible pain prefers marijuana over vicodin, how does that hurt you? Mind your own business. People have their priorities so out of whack. If John Doe would rather use marijuana for his chronic pain, then let him do it. I think it should just be legalized and taxed for everyone. We let people smoke cigarettes, take massive amounts of prescription drugs LEGALLY, drink alcohol, etc. There is barely any regulation on pumping out all these prescription drugs that may cause suicide and more harm than good, but everybody gets their panties in a bunch over medical marijuana. Get over it.

Michigan State Police are directed to enforce state law, NOT federal law. Although federal agents have the authority to arrest anyone in possession of marijuana (proper name cannabis), in practice, only state police concern themselves with small cannabis offenses. Federal Agents are directed to only go after large cannabis growers and dealers.

Burning anything an inhaling it is damaging to your lungs, of course, but cannabis need not be smoked.

Well then HM, there already is a pill with THC in it the active ingredient in MJ. That pill is called Marionl. So tell me why you would need it in any other form? It’s because the druggies want a reason to have MJ legal. MJ leads to other drug related crimes either through use of it or crimes surrounding the money around it.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/31/local/me-pot31

Tell me how much fun that neighborhood sounds to you?

Federales Again your not up on your research there . Its been proven by every MMj user out there that has tried marinol and currently use MMJ that it is NOT JUST the THC componet but a MULTITUDE of componets within the plant that gives the effects theat the people that are in pain, suffering, and dieing the releaf they cant get elsewhere. Youll accept a patients word if they say moraphine helps their pain but wont accept it if they say MMJ does? Whats the word for that? There is also current research abroad (as the DEA FDA ETC wont allow research inbto this) that shows this distinction as well. So as someone else said before…stop talking out of the wrong hole

You said I wasn’t up on my research and yet I provided something. At least provide me something to look at before saying there is current research somewhere. So don’t tell me not to talk out of the wrong hole before you say absolutely nothing of value.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Federales Again;
In Oliver Cromwell’s eloquent words, “I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken” about the course you and President Bush urge us to adopt to fight drugs. The path you propose of more police, more jails, use of the military in foreign countries, harsh penalties for drug users, and a whole panoply of repressive measures can only make a bad situation worse.

Bob Dobbs

I really like what you’ve got to say, that’s some real solid stuff. I am not for going out and arresting every drug user. I am not for getting the small time dealers or junkies. I want to go out and get the people who are out there doing the dealing. I see this as a way for drug lords to, from my view, legitimize their business by acquiring medical marijuana distributor licenses.

Federales Again;
I think you hae missed the point. when was the last time the Coors cartell had a shoot out with the Miller lite family? The only way to end this is to legalize their business. These are not my words but those of Professor Friedman, 1976 Nobel Laureate in economics. Google Wm. F. Buckley Jr and The war on drugs is lost to read what better men than I have had to say.

“The reign of tears is over.

1. Wm. F. Buckley Jr.

Last summer WFB was asked by the New York Bar Association to make a statement to the panel of lawyers considering the drug question. He made the following statement:

WE ARE speaking of a plague that consumes an estimated $75 billion per year of public money, exacts an estimated $70 billion a year from consumers, is responsible for nearly 50 per cent of the million Americans who are today in jail, occupies an estimated 50 per cent of the trial time of our judiciary, and takes the time of 400,000 policemen — yet a plague for which no cure is at hand, nor in prospect.

I know a couple of people with serious spinal injuries, and they would much rather use medical marijuana, then be doped up/out of it by vicoden, oxycotin, etc. MJ is a lot better for you than the FDA approved synthetic heroin and opium.