http://www.statenews.com Orlando, Fla. — In the first half of Thursday’s Capital One Bowl against MSU, Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford looked like he had partied a little too hard on New Year’s Eve. The junior passer overthrew receivers, missed touch passes and looked to have the energy of a sloth. en-us Gryphon 2.2.3b-tsn (woodward)/Foundry5 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:10:23 -0500 webmaster@statenews.com http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30038 brian “clutch” hoyer’s last pass was an interception, a fitting end to his terrible career Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:38:09 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30038 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30039 I don’t think Hoyer’s career was terrible, just overrated and mediocre. He has the physical but not the head. Again and again, Hoyer misfired to open receivers when we needed big plays. 23 plays in the 1st half and 6 points pretty much says it all. Yes, there were a few drops and the Tight End was held on the late 2 point conversion, but it was mainly Hoyer, just as he was in last year’s Bowl game vs BC (and too many critical reg season games), who proved to be the Spartan killer once again. Our D was pretty good for the most part — we DO need to work on play fakes (which, as you noticed, our D got suckered into but UGA never did on ours) and, as usual, our general poor tackling. Too often our defensive players, esp our LBs and D-backs, are out of position to make plays (as are our O lineman and backs to stop QB sacks)… But I do think Keith Nichol, if he is indeed all that, will be a significant upgrade to Hoyer who showed flashes but never got over the hump at MSU. Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:50:02 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30039 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30040 … [addendum/correction] 23 plays IN UGA territory in the 1st half… and only 6 pts. As the announcers noted at halftime, it would probably catch up to us… and, of course, it did. Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:51:56 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30040 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30043 We all just witnessed the end of the career of the crappiest QB in MSU’s history. When you compare him to Stafford, it is pretty evident why one is a future NFL 1st round pick and the other is a future grocery store bagger. Hoyer has the brain the size of a walnut. How many times did the announcers have to say he missed an open guy? Too many. When all of our opponents realized that Ringer is our offense, Hoyer got even more embarassed. Good riddance. Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:39:03 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30043 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30046 Same story much of the year — Hoyer struggles to hit 50% of his passes (hitting the short meaningless ones, a couple decent ones, and then completely missing on the rest) and Ringer running endlessly up the middle for 2 yards per carry. The Treadwell broken record plays on… This is a big Dantonio fault. Loyalty is admirable to a point, but it was loyalty to a fault this year. Cousins may have some faults, but at least he’s accurate. He played better in his limited action the whole year. He should have gotten at least 1 quarter in every game — and should have played the second half today. And we all wanted Ringer to have a big day, but if it’s not happening, it’s not happening. We were not going to be able to run until we could throw and back them off (just like the other big games this year) — yet we just keep pounding and punting. If the QB is struggling, you have to throw on first down — and if you miss throw on second. We completely wasted so many downs today. Good riddance is all you can say about Hoyer. He tried hard, gave it his all, but he never really was good enough. Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:23:47 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30046 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30049 I love Hoyer and I want to rub lettuce on him. Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:31:09 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30049 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30050 Ozy, is that you? Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:31:44 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30050 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30052 All of you suck at life. Listen up Hoyer you are a good QB don’t let these no talent @$$clowns tell you other wise because if they were such amazing athletes they would be on the field. Thank you seniors! You played your heart out, it is a game of inches, we all get tired of hearing it but you have a great coach and staff to guide you towards the next step. Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:56:20 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30052 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30053 Hoyer was not a good QB. If any of you think otherwise, you’re not a true Spartan. But you can’t blame him for everything. Treadwell and Dantonio are much worse. This was an awful year in the Big 10 and the bowl games prove it. Our 9 and 3 regular season record is fluff with off years by Michigan and Notre Dame, plus a lucky Wisconsin win. Dantonio should not get credit for it (although the trustees will probably give him a new 50 year contract). From now on, we should reject bowl game invitations. We always choke on national TV and that can’t be good for recruiting. Even with Michigan having a down year, they’re recruiting class is in the top 10 nationally. Anyway…I’m getting tired of the MSU jokes. Let’s just play regular season and not go to bowl games. It’s too depressing. Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:43:23 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30053 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30054 How is Hoyer a good QB? He has a mediocre arm, has horrible vision, bad attention to detail (throwing a 3 yard pass on 3rd and long) and makes bad decisions. He was a decent leader, but without Ringer, our O-line and our defense we would have never gone as far as we did. We are getting a good amount of 4 star and 3 star recruits, something we never used to be able to say. We are not Ohio State or USC in recruiting so you have to be thankful for what is happening to the program. Plus, having Kirk Cousins and Keith Nichol is already an upgrade to the offense. We just need someone to step in for Ringer, Wiley, Long and Kershaw. Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:50:03 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30054 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30056 Typical of these comments that you don’t know much about football…especially being a team game that requires all players to do there job. But like many internet experts you can bash a kid who adjusted his play for the system – did his job – and in the end will be remembered far longer at MSU than you supposed fans. If you watch the game with any knowledge you would realize that its not all that you see that dictates the game. Good luck to the new Qbs….and realize that the “fans” are all “fans” just front runners who believe that while they can post in cyberspace have a real clue about football. Go Green! Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:30:39 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30056 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30058 So, apparently, Msugogreen feels that Hoyer doing his job entails regularly missing wide open receivers, throwing passes on 3rd and long that are yards short of the 1st down marker, and curling up fetal on the ground anytime a defender gets within 5 feet of him. Get a clue! Granted, I’ll give you the fact that our stellar offensive scheme didn’t help matters, but I’ve seen high school QBs play with more poise than this guy. Must take an genius to figure out, hey, we put in a different QB, called the plays from the line, and we actually scored. Oh well, let’s make sure we don’t do that again, it really confused the other team’s defense. Gee, guess what other team had the same idea last night? Only difference was, they have a coach who recognized that it worked, so keep running it. I’ll give you a clue – they wear burnt orange. Sorry Hoyer – good riddens, and if we’re really lucky, maybe another school will relieve us of the anchor on our offense that is Don Treadwell. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:41:37 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30058 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30059 Obviously Seriously believes that all the play on the field is dictated by the QB – like receivers running their routes …maybe incorrectly – only going with 1 hand instead of two – and then …well more than enough mistakes by other members of the offense. But no matter – everything else he did …must have been a mistake – Compare his completions and play with older more experienced receivers in 2007 and previous years. Sure piss on the guy who just did his job – and by the way got sacked an average 6 – 7 times in games where our OL was dominated by the defense…merely all the losses this year. So thanks for your support as I am sure you cheer when things go well – and piss on Spartans when they don’t. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:04:24 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30059 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30060 Msugogreen – Go back over the years and look at how many balls Hoyer threw ten yards into the sidelines / past the end zone. A lot. He can’t even throw left. He sucked. The sixty year old lady sitting in front of me in Orlando last week also made the astute observation that he sucked. Also, you suck for not realizing that he sucked. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:08:05 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30060 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30061 Gosh …how did Devin Thomas even break the receiving record – and by the way throwing it out of bounds…its call throwing it away and not getting sacked or intercepted. Glad to know that your knowledge is limited. So while you wish to be juvenile in your language….I do suck for not realizing who I am dealing with. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:26:27 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30061 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30064 OK, Dickbag, now I’m gonna drop some football knowledge on your ass, since you feel you’re so astute on the game. 1) Agreed, when you’re receivers run lazy routes, it makes it difficult to complete passes. What excuse do you have for our dear Brian when he’s got a guy open on the sideline (standing still, mind you), no defender within five yards, and he chucks into the fourth row? Thomas set the receiving record, a)because he’s probably one of the most athletically gifted receivers we’ve ever had (read as, he can chase all the shitty passes Hoyer throws better than most), and b) every pass play called was for him 2) Agreed, you need the O line to block so you don’t eat turf tacos all day long, but since you’re such the great football mind, I’m sure you recognize the fact that since Pee Wee they teach you as a QB that you have a 3-count to get rid of the ball, or you better be on your horse scrambling. Hoyer can’t get in a five-step drop in less than two seconds, and he doesn’t have the field vision to find an open receiver in less than one. Add to that the fact that he’s statue in the pocket – no ability to scramble. 3)Nobody said the rest of the team were All Americans, but the QB is the field general out there, so yes, the play is more or less dictated by him. Funny, with your expert knowledge of the game you didn’t recognize that. 4) Interesting how Cousins can come in the middle of the game, stand behind the same O line, throw to the same receivers, and yet still manage to engineer a score in one drive. If I recall, Hoyer had about seven or eight shots, and managed to rack up two really nice FGs. By the way, same thing happened when OSU handed us our asses earlier this season, so don’t call it a fluke. Clearly my 10 years on the field have left me ignorant to the finer point of football, thank you for setting me straight. Contrary to what you might think, mastering NCAA football on your Xbox, and watching SportsCenter every day does not qualify you as a football expert. For the record, I bleed green, and have cheered them through the good and suffered through the bad (and there’s been a lot of it) for the last 20 years or so. Don’t ever question my Spartan loyalty you self-rightoues bitch! Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:11:01 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30064 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30065 ohhhh fight fight Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:53:09 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30065 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30083 Impressed with your debate ability and to call names…dickbag? Well if you wish to conduct this debate further sfpa2007@gmail.com. But I can tell that you overall superior thought of yourself has allowed you to diminish your debate – but great in name calling. Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:10:23 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/30083