Coach correct in suspending players for season

^——- NOT a Spartan

“Kampfer had charged at Tropp, which was followed by MSU freshman forward Andrew Conboy punching and pushing Kampfer to the ice. Tropp then hit Kampfer over the head with his stick.”

What is wrong with State News writers? The two opinion pieces I’ve read on this matter in the State News have both tried to provide some sort’ve context that somehow rationalizes Tropp’s classless thuggery. Now the claim is that Kampfer charged Tropp? Do you know what charging is in the game of hockey? Look it up, you’ll feel pretty silly afterwards. What Kampfer did to Tropp was a clean, harmless hit; happens all the time in the sport. If you want to provide genuine context, consider – from now on- mentioning that Kampfer cleanly hit Tropp before Conboy sucker punched him to the ice, from behind, and Tropp slashed him (twice) while he lay motionless on the ice.

Bzzzzzz, I understand why you’re using a pseudonym here; clearly you don’t have the courage to put your name behind your inane commentary. I can say with 100% certainty that you have never played hockey before. Conboy and Tropp – their dangerous acts were not of men, but of cowards.

I am not a Spartan, however relevant that is. I am a hockey fan.

How stupid are you people, specially “The Truth”. Hitting someone with the stick is should be a criminal offense. Fighting in hockey is nothing new, haven’t you people ever seen a hockey game before? “Kampfer had charged at Tropp, which was followed by MSU freshman forward Andrew Conboy punching and pushing Kampfer to the ice.” Kampfer was looking for a fight and he got one, if he never charged at Tropp, Conboy wouldn’t have kicked his ass, that’s hockey, period. Using your stick in a fight is cowardice and weak and Tropp should be kicked off the team permanently. As for the “The Truth”, maybe you would be better served being a fan of tiddlywinks.

Hey, why does he need to check the guy with 50 seconds remaining and the game out of hand (lets be honest, it was a pretty solid hit) however clean it was. Again, what the two MSU players did was wrong and they should be suspended. But this kid seems to keep ending up on these types of situations. First with a UofM athlete, now with MSU athlete.

Why? This kid is either doing some bad things or saying some bad things. Once, I would be ok with, but this is the 2nd time.

To any future UM posters…Look at Truth’s asinine comments for reasons why you see some of the comments from MSU fans. That guy is a complete and total idiot….and is unfortunately a good microcosm of several UM fans across this state. I know you the students and several alumni are much better than that. And if you pay attention, most MSU fans are just as sickened by this incident as UM fans. We’re not the classless goons you think we are.

Bill: How stupid are you? Watch the video. Kampfer never charged anyone. That’s the point. Forget his previous injury; it really doesn’t matter. Kampfer put a clean hit on Tropp, Tropp and Conboy over-reacted. “Hitting someone with the stick is should be a criminal offense.” What the hell does that sentence even mean? Tropp’s slashes were borderline. The City of Ann Arbor charged Kampfer’s dad with trespassing for going into the MSU locker room – don’t be surprised if someone isn’t reviewing Tropp’s actions for criminal charges. Doubt they’ll come.

MSUAlum2001: I am both a UM alum and an MSU alum. And the majority of both school’s students and alum are classy, intelligent people. Unfortunately the vocal ones are typically the classless goons. Please don’t attribute Truth and his/her character to all of UM folks (we don’t even know s/he is a Wolverine) and I won’t attribute Bill and his brethren to MSU. Thanks.

“Matthew is blind:“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0OXkub0xUE
You are going to honestly tell me you don’t see him turn and raise is left arm as to throw a punch?!

Matthew is blind, second try

Matthew, thanks for the sanity. And it is good to know that Kampfer’s dad was charged with trespassing. And as shameful as Tropp’s actions were, I highly doubt criminal charges will come about because of it. But he does deserve be suspended for the rest of the season, and depending on the next couple of years go, it will probably hurt his chances of playing professionally.

Bill, I don’t usually call people names on these kinds of boards, but you keep proving your stupidity. Here is the link to the video of the incident that everyone (except you) is talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI-sYE1DsMs&feature=related

Your link is to another incident from I don’t even know when. And, having watched the correct video many times as well as seeing the incident live, I can honestly say Kampfer never tried to throw a punch and delivered a clean hit. In fact, I haven’t seen even the most zealous, ignorant Spartan claim Kampfer’s actions were in the wrong.

I will preface this with that fact that the way the MSU players responded was wrong and they should be punished.

However, why did he feel the need to check him with 50s left in a game already decided. It wasn’t a little check. It was a pretty solid hit. This is the 2nd time in a couple months this kid has been beaten down. The next time he gets beat down are we going to finally ask, why is this kid always in this position.

old-time hockey.

The original suspension handed down by the league, should be enough.

How many games is Kampfer going to miss? From what I have read he missed the next practice and might not play this weekend out of caution (meaning if it was the playoffs, he’d be on the ice).

Good grief. Okay, mystery poster, at what point in the game and at what score is it considered bad manners to continue checking at the blue line? I’d like to know for my next game. When should checking stop? Goals have been scored with as little as 12 seconds between them. So, what should Mich have done? If a team is down by two or more goals with less than a minute to play, do we start penalty shots?

Try as you might, Kampfer simply did no wrong. And what happened to him before the game doesn’t matter either. It could have been Miller or anyone else. The Wolverine made a clean, legal hit. The Spartan retaliated with a cheap shot followed by a horrific slash to an obviously unconscious player.

No. To begin with, no.

“Kampfer had charged at Tropp, which was followed by MSU freshman forward Andrew Conboy punching and pushing Kampfer to the ice. Tropp then hit Kampfer over the head with his stick.”

No! Kampfer did not “charge at Tropp.” Kampfer did not commit a “Charging” foul, and Kampfer did not violate any rule or the spirit of any hockey rule. Kampfer “checked” Tropp, who had the puck. Kampfer stood Tropp up, and knocked him off the puck. Kampfer did not foul Tropp. The proof of all of this? Video replay, from about three angles.

Next:
“Tropp should be given a chance to redeem himself next season, as similar incidents in the NHL have allowed for retribution.”

I’m a lawyer, and I have no idea what this means. Quite possibly, it means the opposite of what this language-handicapped editorial writer intends. As a Michigan fan who would have gladly, cheerfully, loudly yelled “F>U>State!” at the end of that disgraceful game, I think I might like some more “retribution” in this case. Or is it “revenge”? Will Tropp be a “recidivist”? Or will the end of his supension find him “rehabilitated”?

Hitting someone with the stick is clearly over the line, but haven’t any of you ever heard the saying: I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out? NONE of you know what was said or wasn’t said on the ice that could have built up to this. Fights happen in hockey all the time, get over it.

how often do fights in hockey break out where one player gets knocked to the ground and stops moving and then gets hit in the head with a stick once and twice for good measure. i’m gonna go and say almost never. That is not fighting. That is aggravated assault. Depending on the severity (i’ll admit this isn’t as severe as most cases) you can spend up to 30 years in jail. no don’t twist my words and say that i said Tropp should spend serious jail time but this gives you an idea what kind of consequences he would have to face if he wasn’t protected by the leniency of the CCHA and a university athletic department. and to say that none of us know what was said on the ice so we can’t possibly know what’s going on, uhh trash talk happens at every sporting event. i don’t care how severe it is it’s still trash talk and if tropp or conboy or anyone doesn’t have enough self control then they should take the same route as conboy’s big brother and have some anger management.

There is no realistic way you can blame UM for any of this. Clean hits do not warrant severe retaliation. even if they do come in the last minute of play. if you watched the game you saw that MSU was capable of scoring 2 goals in a short amount of time therefore giving someone who had the puck a hard hit is more than just normal it’s smart playing. Blame chris summers goal for causing this? thats just silly. incidental contact happens near the goal but palushaj wasn’t the only player running into your goalie. i remember a few of your players falling on him keeping him from getting back into position and then he did get back in position before summers shot. Then trying to deride UM for committing sins on par with 4 people listed at the beginning of this article like swearing and “poor security”, lax security exists at most ice hockey venues. Obviously it won’t anymore but thats hardly worth putting sanctions against UM. And the swearing, MSU is looking down from it’s ivory tower accusing UM of swearing at a sporting event. really. Just because you can actually hear UM students yelling doesn’t mean they are so much worse than MSU sports. Yes Yost does have a strong reputation of profanity but don’t try to make conboy’s and tropp’s actions seem justified. There’s is absolutely no justification

“Tropp should be given a chance to redeem himself next season, as similar incidents in the NHL have allowed for retribution.”

Huh? That’s a complete misuse of the word “retribution”. Perhaps rehabilitation but certainly not retribution.

“Redemption” is the word they were looking for. Sigh, State News…

so…Mgoblue…..you must be a great lawyer with an AWESOME work ethic…..blogging on a college website, thumbing through a thesaurus, at 2:30 in the afternoon on a weekday…..