Pulling out article leaves out critical information about study

Pwnt.

Well said, Ms. Phillipich.

If I recall when I read the study it never claimed that it prevented STD transmission. In fact, I don’t even recall the study attempting to address that. So while that is a good question to ask, and something perhaps to study, it was outside of the intent of the study.

“The withdrawal method is not newsworthy and students still do not feel that it is an effective form of birth control.”

That’s great, but how about you show us some evidence instead of just using some STD-worrying scare tactics?

“What does the fact that none of them were college-aged have to do with the accuracy of the study? You have to be 40 years old in order to know when you are going to orgasm? That’s ridiculous. Moreover, the study aimed to determine it’s effectiveness in preventing pregnancy… period. So obviously it was not aimed at homosexual relationships. Moreover, I’d like to point out the fact again that monogamy has nothing to do with knowing when you are going to ejaculate.”

How about the fact that college sex includes risk factors not seen in monogamous, stable relationships?

Well worded, please write more.

This pulling out method has met its match. Condoms are the answer is that what I hear in this article? What else do you suggest?
I mean really do people think clearly in the heat of the moment, especially in the heat of the unexpected moment. And I have to agree with the above blog I think people of any age know when they are going to have an orgasim, after all it is pretty well felt, if you know what I mean.

Steve-
I’m sure you recognize the concept of sample bias. The various experimental groups should not be homogenous and the authors need to control for factors such as age, socio-economic status, race, etc. What evidence do you have that 40 year olds aren’t more effective at pulling out? I suppose it makes sense that any idiot should know when to pull out, but you didn’t present any evidence other than anecdotal evidence you trashed in the letter.

“The various experimental groups should not be homogenous and the authors need to control for factors such as age, socio-economic status, race, etc.”

That would imply that there are physiological differences between those groups. As far as I know, orgasms are not different based upon how much money you have or what race you are. If there is no physiological difference in the things you are attempting to control for, then it amounts to nothing more than statistical-masturbation, so to speak.

“How about the fact that college sex includes risk factors not seen in monogamous, stable relationships?”

Those risk factors would affect the study of STD contraction if that’s what the study was attempting to address.

Steve, you really need to learn to read.

“Those risk factors would affect the study of STD contraction if that’s what the study was attempting to address. Since that was not the scope of the study, again there is no physiological difference in the ejaculation of a man in a monogamous relationship versus polygamous relationship.”

Except the risk factors I noted – and described in the study I linked – are PREGNANCY risk factors.

Steve-
Well, the word physiological covers a rather wide range of attributes, but to pretend that a 40 year old having sex and a 20 year old having sex are identical in every way is not supportable. Within those groups you have varying levels of education, sexual experience, parental involvement, etc all of which play a role in sexual responsibility. This isn’t strictly a discussion on the physical act of pulling out.

“Well, the word physiological covers a rather wide range of attributes, but to pretend that a 40 year old having sex and a 20 year old having sex are identical in every way is not supportable. Within those groups you have varying levels of education, sexual experience, parental involvement, etc all of which play a role in sexual responsibility. This isn’t strictly a discussion on the physical act of pulling out.

View Points in the ABOVE BLOGS and a lot of work put into them too.