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MSU polygraph analyst helping area

By Brittany Shammas (Last updated: 07/08/09 10:02pm)

To MSU police Detective Anne Stahl, a racing heart, sweaty hands or a high blood pressure could be the difference between an innocent man and a criminal.

Stahl is MSU’s only polygraph analyst, likely the first at MSU in at least 50 years. Her work, which is sought out by police departments throughout Mid-Michigan, relies on the physiological reactions an individual’s body has to the stress of lying and can be key in criminal investigations. Stahl asks the examinee specific questions and monitors their bodily reactions while answering.

Stahl said she receives at least three to four polygraph administration requests each week and has conducted examinations in criminal cases ranging from child abuse to homicides, with results that vary from identifying a suspect to weeding out suspects.

“In some situations, a polygraph can make or break a case,” she said. “In some situations, it just gives investigators a better idea or better perspective on where they need to head with their investigation.”

Stahl said a polygraph test also can differentiate between people unrelated to a crime.

“It can eliminate truthful people that are innocent and have nothing to do with the crime,” she said.

A polygraph analyst looks for deception by comparing a person’s physiological attributes during questioning to their normal levels, said Lynn Marcy, director of the American Institute of Polygraph in Otsego, Mich. The examination’s accuracy depends on the ability of the analyst, he said.

“It’s like any other kind of a diagnostic or art form,” he said. “Some folks can be better at it than others.”

Stahl, who was trained as an analyst about three years ago, is very talented in her line of work, MSU police Sgt. Florene McGlothian-Taylor said. Stahl was sent to training by the MSU Police Department because there was a need for the services of a polygraph analyst within the community, McGlothian-Taylor said.

In many cases, a polygraph test can be very helpful to investigators because a person being tested by a polygraph analyst often will confess to a crime, Bob Kullman, a forensic examiner at Speckin Forensic Laboratories in Okemos said.

“There’s been many, many times where during the polygraph, the polygraphist will say, ‘You failed,’ and the suspect will say, ‘OK, I helped so-and-so bury the body,’” he said.

And if an examination does not lead investigators to a confession, it can show investigators if they are moving toward a suspect, Stahl said.

“It can be tremendously helpful,” she said.

Originally Published: 07/08/09 10:02pm




Commentary:

Smitty

07/09/09 10:33am

Seems like a waste of money to me. Why don’t the MSU Police focus their time and resources on cases that occur on campus instead of helping the other police departments in the area. How about trying to catch the guy who stole my backpack last year.

Steve Styx

07/09/09 12:12pm

What a load of horse hockey !! A polygraph is nothing more than an interrogation prop. The polygrapher is an interrogator nothing more. Bottom line is, its your right to refuse it in all circumstances. If your told you failed a polygraph, its nothing more than being lied to anyways. An invalid pseudo science at best.

Vic Strecher

07/09/09 1:11pm

Your story could have been more comprehensive if it had mentioned that Lt. Charles Becker was an expert polygrapher/interviewer for MSU Police during the late 1940-1950s. He assisted other agencies, as well. Also, Dr. Frank Horvath, retired professor of Criminal Justice at MSU, is recognized worldwide as a preeminent researcher of polygraphy issues. Yes, Mr. Styx, it is a prop, but it is often more than that when used by an expert interviewer/observer of behavior.

Psychopath

07/09/09 2:54pm

I am glad that it can help generally speaking, polygraphs that is…However I would have to believe that if a person is a Psychopath, that they have NO feelings, so NO physiological reactions would be given from that person. I believe that a Psychopath doesn’t have the same concience as everyone else..they do not register GUILT. Thus making polygraphs ineffective.

Hornet

07/09/09 3:34pm
Everyone should understand that a polygraph test cannot be used in a court of law anywhere either for or against you. So its not a ‘tool of law enforcement.” No one can force you ever to take one and I would advises a client never to do so.

So Why are they Given?

07/09/09 4:33pm

Is it used so that the police can ask further questions, as well as to let the person go who passes the polygraph?

Sparty

07/10/09 12:04pm

In the hands of a true expert (typically intelligence officials), the poly is a very useful tool that does detect deception on almost everyone in the population. pathological liars on the other hand typically do not show up so it cannot be used in a vaccuum/as the only tool. Nonetheless, with most people, as long as its a true expert giving the polygraph, they can be very effective.

Interesting

07/10/09 8:45pm

Thank you for the information Sparty, very interesting indeed.

Hornet

07/10/09 10:20pm
Sorry Sparty, in case law what ever so called ‘Expert’ You may call to give testimony. There are 100 others that can/will/have counter what ever your Expert calls deception- is wrong. Case Law time after time as tossed any and all use of this use of this so called lie dector as unreliable/usless. This has been in front of the US Supreme Court plenty of times and is not allowed being judged as unreliable and faulty. Its just one so called Expert against another. Most people who are called to give testimony against a poly are them selfs ex experts and know its very unreliable and filled with faults.

Steve Styx

07/12/09 1:22am

Spoken like true believers in BS. Polygraphers can be beat by countermeasures and those that can and do know to counter SA (statement analysis) techniques, and know how to counter KA (Kinesic Analysis) techniques. Reed, Honts and Walters knowlege is always a good trick to have up your sleeve. Makes interrogators go crazy !!! Besides if you know the polygraph is just a trick, no fear or anxiety, renders the machine useless, F3’s won’t even register. Better science beats schlock everytime.

Very Interesting

07/12/09 5:15am

I always learn something new, when I take the time to read the Statenews. The Blogs are insightful.

I promise to...

07/12/09 11:48am

..tell the truth!

Wait till you have to take one...

07/12/09 10:26pm

I think its very funny how all of you dismiss the poly. As someone who actually had to undergo one for a security clearance, I can promise you that, while perhaps most police are not trained up to be good at it, true experts (i.e. the FBI, CIA, NSA) are able to tell if you are honest. Also, so called evasion techniques are available but are well known by experts and are easily noticeable if you know what to look for.

Thank you ^^^

07/12/09 10:37pm

For your post.

Steve Styx

07/13/09 3:52pm

Wait : 07/12/09 @ 10:26pm

Well you keep right on believing that and be a trusting sheep. And your (so called) experts have been beaten by trained individuals. Agency doesn’t matter. And trusting what comes off the internet for countermeasures is also a recipe for disaster. Its plainly obvious that its frontloaded so fools believe they can really beat it. Original techniques and methods plus the element of surprize is the key. But you go right ahead, remember that polygrapher (interrogator) in any form is not there to help you.



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