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4 freshmen charged with bomb possession; face prison time, fines

By Brittany Shammas (Last updated: 11/04/09 12:27am)

Four MSU freshmen face felony charges carrying sentences of up to 20 years in prison after their arrests early Monday for detonating explosives in an East Lansing yard.

The freshmen, Olivia M. Hudson, 18, of Okemos; Darby D. Dudley, 18, of Mason; Sasha N. Savage, 18, of Okemos; and Nikolai E. Wasielewski, 18, of Rossford, Ohio, were arrested during a traffic stop in the Holden Hall service area parking lot just after midnight Monday, after East Lansing police received a call about an explosion in a yard on the 400 block of Grove Street, according to a statement from MSU police.

East Lansing police Chief Tom Wibert said the students had tossed an explosive device out of their vehicle’s window and onto the lawn, causing no damage. The MSU police officers who made the arrest found two additional explosive devices inside the car, Wibert said. He described them as pear-sized firework mortars, akin to the type of fireworks that give off a loud noise and white light.

The students were arraigned Monday in East Lansing’s 54-B District Court, before Judge Richard D. Ball, and were released from jail on an unspecified bond. All have been charged with placing explosives and causing property damage and possession of bombs with unlawful intent. The students face up to 20 years in prison and/or a $15,000 fine for each charge.

But no-preference sophomore Eric Flatley, whose yard the device landed in, said the explosion was nothing serious and the students do not deserve felony charges. Flatley said he does not know any of the suspects or why they would throw the device into his yard.

“I was like, ‘What just happened?’” he said. “It was Sunday night, everyone was resting after Halloween. We were just sitting around talking about last night, and all the sudden, surprise.”

None of the suspects could be reached for comment Tuesday.

Accounting master’s student Kristen Reid was in her basement bedroom at about midnight Monday when a “loud” explosion roused her, leading her to send a text message to a roommate about the noise before going out to the porch of her Grove Street home.

Some students living near the area where the explosion occurred said the noise sounded similar to a shotgun going off, while others said it sounded like a Fourth of July firework.

“We were sitting here, playing Blitz, and then all of the sudden, the windows light up, (and) we run outside thinking someone shot someone,” said communication junior Donny Alberico, who lives next door to the house where the firework landed.

After MSU police saw a vehicle matching the description witnesses gave and arrested the four students in the Holden Hall parking lot, the Michigan State Police Bomb Squad destroyed the two additional explosives found in the vehicle, according to MSU police statement.

Originally Published: 11/04/09 12:27am




Commentary:

eric flatley

11/04/09 1:20am

ummm Eric Flatley went to Okemos with Darby, Sasha, and Olivia. Unless they got the wrong address and threw their explosive at some other Eric Flately that happens to go to MSU, then he is lying when he says he doesn’t know the suspects.

He may not have known who it was at the time, but let’s face it. Anyone who went to Okemos in recent years knows the Dudleys, and likely the others involved in this.

kevin

11/04/09 8:04am

these kids won’t get more than a misdemeanor and serve probation. But hopefully they get a wake up call before they accidentally hurt someone.

Really

11/04/09 8:26am

They shouldn’t get anything. Police don’t enact arrests during 4th of July celebrations when half the population is lighting off illegal fireworks. No harm, no foul. MSP bomb squad? For fireworks? No wonder we have budget problems in Michigan.

beau

11/04/09 8:35am

Total overreaction. Kids being stupid. But in a NO TOLERANCE world they’ll be lucky if they aren’t charge with a terrorist plot to overthrow the government. Stop wasting our tax money on BS. Thank you very much.

Sparty

11/04/09 8:56am

While stupid, anything other than community service is a complete and total over reaction. There was no damage and they were the type of fireworks tons of people use on the 4th even though they’re not legal (since sparklers are essentially the only legal “firework” in MI). If they were throwing them at PEOPLE that’d be one thing or putting them in peoples mailboxes but they werent.

Headliner

11/04/09 9:13am

Shouldn’t the headline have read: “Four MSU students arrested for lighting a firecracker”?

Really?

11/04/09 9:15am

20 years is a little harsh, but we are living in a post 9/11 world. Everything regarding bombs and explosives and what not is looked at as very serious. Hopefully they will learn that this behavior is not OK.

Hopefully this will just be a misdemeanor and they won’t have to have this hanging over their heads the rest of their lives.

Again

11/04/09 9:17am

I still recall about 5 years ago an MSU Football player was arrested under “explosives” charges because he made a ‘works bomb’. For those of you who dont know, essentially you use a 2 liter and the CO2 that fills it up over pressurizes it and it makes a loud pop. You could probably hold it in your hand when it did without injury but he got severe charges nontheless.

That is not justice.

Common Sense

11/04/09 9:20am

They deserve to be taught a lesson. It sounds like they really need one from people who know them and this is an opportunity for them to change things for the better.

Give then 2000 hours of community service. Make them work and help the community. It will help them, teach them valuable life lessons, and not cost the city any money.

Rich

11/04/09 9:22am

They are facing 20 years and $15k for having 3 pear sized mortars that only “give off a loud noise and white light?”

rage.

Sparty x2

11/04/09 9:27am

Regardless of the outcome, they most likely now have a record that will show up on full time job background checks. That becomes the payback. College degree with police record = no job.

really?!

11/04/09 9:37am

If MSU will even allow them to still go here! Don’t students get kicked out for stuff like that?

and Rich- once again, post 9/11 world. Yes, it may seem a little over the top, but the government is taking anything like this really serious. Don’t shoot the messengers for following through on the laws that are in effect. You do the crime, you need to be prepared to pay the time.

Stupid

11/04/09 9:45am

Eric Flatley dated Darby so I would say they definitely know each other. They probably thought it would be really funny to throw a bomb in his yard to freak him out and now they’re facing felony charges. Come on ELPD. You’re cracking down on fireworks? How about you tell the cata busses to stop running into students, something that is actually harmful.

You know what?

11/04/09 9:52am

One go punch a random ELPD officer in the face right now, and be subject to lesser charges than these kids.

One go sell drugs to an undercover cop, and be subject to less.

One go get a random girl really drunk, and rape her after she passes out, and be subject to less.

Hell, in some states, one could molest a CHILD and be subject to less.

Hmmmmm… So who still thinks these charges make sense? RAGE.

You know what?

11/04/09 9:53am

One could*
No idea what happened there
Brain fail

concerned

11/04/09 10:41am

I’m confused as to why the students were charged under possession of a “bomb” when there’s laws that specifically address possession of fireworks including $10 mortars (a misdemeanor charge max).

What’s next, a student being charged with a life in prison felony terroristic plot for stockpiling “hundreds of bombs” (a pack of bottle rockets).

COME ON!

Dub

11/04/09 10:51am

Now you know what tyranny looks like. Using laws to oppress others for infractions that are basically harmless but the state applies them to send a “message.” The real message is FEAR us.

Cannot believe this!!!!

11/04/09 10:52am

I know 3 out of the 4 involved and this is just CRAZY! They are all VERY good kids/students and the ELPD needs to calm down! I hope this works out for them…if not, the community NEEDS to get involved!

Ed T

11/04/09 10:54am

Any chance these kids are being connected to the explosions in EL this summer? Those were a little more serious, involving some property damage etc.

haha

11/04/09 11:03am

chill out, just because they face “up to” 20 years and $15,000 doesn’t mean they’re going to. That’s just the maximum time possible under law (i.e. repeat offenders, property damage, etc). I doubt these students are even as worried as some of you posters are!

Marie

11/04/09 11:05am

The thing that stand out about this article to me is the comment about the girl who texted her roommate before going to check what happened.

I can’t even begin to describe how much people who text message constantly and in situations where a phone call or just getting off your butt and walking into the next room would serve so much better

A ‘bomb’ goes off and she takes the time to text message the girl in the room next to her, instead of running to see if she was ok and check out what happened.

I cannot believe this

11/04/09 11:20am

I do not think anyone needs to “chill out.” Even if they do not receive harsh charges, their names are still tarnished from being displayed to the public. I KNOW they are worried.

Why you gotta be Anonymous?

11/04/09 11:24am

Okay I do think that it’s harsh for them to get 20 years/15,000 in fines. But at the same time, these are the kind are the kind of girls have had things handed to them on a silver spoon, and it’s about time they see real consequences. It’s about time that they know that they can’t always get everything they want. Thank God for justice!

A lot of people here seem to be pointing all their fingers at Darby but I don’t think she should be the only one who is conidered “wild.” I know many things about the 3 Okemos girls, considering we were in the same group of friends, and none of these girls are shocking me by their actions.

Side note – Someone said that ’09 was the worst class… WHAT? I thought we were pretty tight.

Some people need to think though.

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They all went to High School together

11/04/09 1:09pm

I know for sure that Eric and Darby know eachother. They went to Okemos together and there used to be pictures on facebook of them together. I’m pretty certain that he’s just covering up for them because Darby especially gets out of any crap she pulls, always. It’s about time that she learn that Daddy can’t always get you out of things. At some point you need to become an adult and take the consequences that come from your actions. Who knows what will be next if she gets away with this. I’m sure that they won’t get 20 years. But I know a fine won’t be anything to them. These girls really deserve some jail time. It’s about time they have a real wake up call.

FYI

11/04/09 1:15pm

For anyone who read the comment by Again, DO NOT try to hold one of those in your hand, it will end badly for you.

Bill shell

11/04/09 1:15pm

To all the people who make ignorant comments, such as from common sense. get a life. What planet are you from? So far I’ve read that they should be punished because they are from riches, maybe caused other explosions, or are just stupid. Also to State grad08. Don’t tell anyone where you went. It shows bad for the college. I would say you need a mate, but a dog would’t put up with you.

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How rude!

11/04/09 1:20pm

Last comment-you must know NOTHING about Darby or her family!! She is the kindest person ever! Two years ago her families house was robbed and burnt putting her through so much! Daddy’s money does not save her! Get your facts straight!!

How rude!

11/04/09 1:20pm

Last comment-you must know NOTHING about Darby or her family!! She is the kindest person ever! Two years ago her families house was robbed and burnt putting her through so much! Daddy’s money does not save her! Get your facts straight!!

How rude!

11/04/09 1:21pm

Last comment-you must know NOTHING about Darby or her family!! She is the kindest person ever! Two years ago her families house was robbed and burnt putting her through so much! Daddy’s money does not save her! Get your facts straight!!

How rude!

11/04/09 1:21pm

Last comment-you must know NOTHING about Darby or her family!! She is the kindest person ever! Two years ago her families house was robbed and burnt putting her through so much! Daddy’s money does not save her! Get your facts straight!!

How rude!

11/04/09 1:22pm

Last comment-you must know NOTHING about Darby or her family!! She is the kindest person ever! Two years ago her families house was robbed and burnt putting her through so much! Daddy’s money does not save her! Get your facts straight!!

SH Cho

11/04/09 1:33pm

Are you saying that Virginia Tech didn’t change everything? Because Virginia Tech changed everything!

J. Ed. Trem.

11/04/09 1:42pm

firecrackers? I dont get it.

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11/04/09 1:51pm

Okay a firework is not a bomb. But either way, you people need to STOP JUDGING. you don’t know their lives, or anything about them. Yeah they went to Okemos, big deal. What an unfounded stereotype to say that they’ve had everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Like really? How dumb are you all making yourselves sound right now.

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Wait wait...

11/04/09 2:01pm

I think everyone is missing the big picture: why was that junior playing NFL Blitz? It’s 2009, not 1999.

Just sayin’…

AquaBot

11/04/09 2:06pm

Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot…

Blakes

11/04/09 2:19pm

How did all this bashing come from them having a little fun that has been blow out of proportion by a lot of people. Obviously some people have a grudges that are still around from high school about these girls, because they are not by any means slimy or slutty. Get a life before you start trying to judge someone else’s.

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11/04/09 2:20pm

thank you !!!. the comments from Okemos 2009 makes okemos look worse than these three girls ever could. you’re embarassing

sos

11/04/09 2:32pm

Warning! Run as fast as you can from the Dudley family – they have been listed more times in the LSJ as victims and do not take any responsibility for their actions! Check Papa Dudley for his supply of fireworks and charge him instead of his daughter. Community service for these girls who are “the nicest girls” that get away with everything!

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11/04/09 2:32pm

actually i’m not from okemos, and i’m not one of “them”. surprise! i just know right from wrong…it’s sad you don’t.

darby's house got burnt?

11/04/09 2:38pm

that comment about her house getting burnt and robbed 2 years ago? boo hoo. cry me a river. that was a BIG insurance job to bail out some bad investments. i thought that was old news. anyway, darby knew how to use that to milk sympathy from her lacrosse buddies.

!!!

11/04/09 2:40pm

Me get a life? First off, I am not one of the girls, but I do know and care about them!

Second, YOU’RE the one wasting energy and time to write such horrible things that ARE NOT true!

SO classy…

ok lets focus on college NOT high school

11/04/09 2:43pm

This is getting thrown WAY out of porportion. For one I did NOT go to Okemos and I am NOT “one of them”. All this probably was was them playing a prank on Draby’s Ex and the supposed fun time turned into a not so fun time. Yes, they shouldn’t have done it but everyone has been caught up in a moment of “fun times” that went wrong.
Please let’s act mature about this- this is not a place to slam the girls about their previous High School actions. High school is over. Let’s grow up and move on.

bill shell

11/04/09 2:43pm

to okemos 2009. You are living proof that people screwed buffalos. What a dumb ass. Your parents must be really proud of you. You will never be educated and i bet your closet is loaded with bad things.

bill shell

11/04/09 2:49pm

to high school was earlier this year. My daughter plays lacrosse and if you weren’t such a big sissy you might play a tough sport too. What a jerk!!!

bill shell is an idiot

11/04/09 2:51pm

you know nothing about the TRUE darby and olivia and that whole lacrosse clique. shut up! your grade-z “slam material” is laughable. maybe you should go to the jonas brothers chat room. people might, actually, take an idiot like you seriously.

OKEMOS_ALUM_2011

11/04/09 2:57pm

Bros and Babes:
I think this situation can be summed up in one word:
College.

Adnan

11/04/09 2:57pm

Aqua Bot go clean the pool!! dad’s not paying you to post comments on news stories!!! YOU’RE FIRED!!!!!!!!

Blakes

11/04/09 2:58pm

The whole point of this article was that these girls are getting in trouble for throwing a firecracker. Let’s get back to topic, nobody cares about your personal opinions about these girls. Start arguing with facts on why these girls should be in trouble or not be in trouble. The facts aren’t because you think they are sluts. Stop being petty and move on with your life. They tried to have a little fun, would you want all of these people bashing you when you were already in the spot light. At least have balls enough to post your names if you have balls enough to write these awful comments.

MrKiki

11/04/09 2:58pm

I can guarentee you that more than half of these posts have been made by children still in middle school/high school/ or freshmen in college. News flash, nothing you say matters, it wont persuade anyone on any of the potential charges or punishments, so shut the fuck up. I am sorry these girls didn’t invite you to a sleep over in the 6th grade or didnt go on a date with you in high school. Get over yourselves and this story and let these girls handle whatever it is that is coming their way.

i like bill shell

11/04/09 2:58pm

don’t hate on bill shell. he has his head on straight.

STOP

11/04/09 2:59pm

I know MANY things about the girls and you’re making things up! They are pretty, kind, and talented…stop being so jealous!

RJS

11/04/09 3:00pm

To the haters it is clear that you were either ostracized as a pathetic human being your entire tenure at Okemos or you are simply an Okemos hater who wishes you had what they did. Which ever it may be, you are simply jealous and wish you could walk around knowing you are the best. You can continue to be an individaul lacking redeeming qualities and have fun not partying, getting laid, and hating your life.

hahah

11/04/09 3:10pm

obviously you care what we think. but in the end, we are right and you and your “facts” (ahem disgusting lies that make you sound like an idiot) are wrong. it’s okay cause whatever they do to get their kicks will be more fun than you have in a lifetime.

hypocricy?

11/04/09 3:12pm

dear “fuck you,”

there are people on here who don’t know the 3 okemos girls. people are going to look at the comments of thier friends to determine what kind of people they are.

just say… it’s not a good look for you or your friends

Unrelated

11/04/09 3:14pm

Honestly, All of you are missing the ACTUAL picture and ACTUAL point that needs to be discussed. It is not about who they were in high school, who they pissed off, who hated them or how big of sluts they were. It is about an illegal thing they did that is now blowing up all over and completely unnecessary. Does ELPD and the press have nothing better to write about than 18 year old freshman students?

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dumb

11/04/09 3:14pm

if people are really looking at this commenting blog where people have no lives and are posting any stupid thing that comes to their head in order to judge these three girls, then our society is sad.

just saying.

MSU123

11/04/09 3:15pm

This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. These girls are just “normal” girls, just like any other MSU student. They threw a firework into a yard. Big deal. No one was hurt and no damage took place. Sounds like an early 4th of July celebration. Get a grip if you think they should actually be punished for this. Maybe some community service and a fine.

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umm

11/04/09 3:17pm

ummm…same goes for you? i hope this blog is not your entertainment. your life really sucks.

peace and love,
queerbait

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11/04/09 3:20pm

Just want to set the record straight to whoever reads these posts and say that not all Okemos students are like this. Stop posting pathetic arguments that make yourself and all Okemos students look bad.

Law

11/04/09 3:21pm

It is very clear that the majority of those commenting do not actually know the girls involved but rather know of them and/or hold some sort of grudge against them.

These are girls who spent their time in high school playing sports, volunteering and maintaining good grades (some are Academic All American athletes).

Please be aware that those of you saying such untrue and hateful things are guilty of breaking the law yourself.

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AquaBot

11/04/09 3:24pm

Hey Adnan, why don’t you take a cue from the rest of the comments on this board and DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE?!? Stop trying to get off on such pitiful little schemes, and Go Clean the Pool!! Don’t you get it?? I don’t care if you DO call Dad! He’ll tell you the same thing that I’m telling you now! I’m not cleaning that thing!

a last bit of sanity.

11/04/09 3:28pm

i would like to say that i think a majority of the people on this board are being absolutely ridiculous. those who are defending these girls solely by throwing around f-bombs and threats are no better than the ones who are using this story as an excuse to bash these girls for whatever reason—both parties are making themselves sound stupid. it’s legitimate to say whether you think they deserve their punishment, whether you think this whole thing is being out of proportion, or whatever else your opinion is regarding the SUBJECT AT HAND. but to
those who have resorted to saying nothing about the girls other than that they are “sluts” are really the biggest disappointment …the anonymity of their statements contradicts the fact that they “don’t care what we all think”. grudges die hard don’t they?

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^^^^^^^^^^

11/04/09 3:31pm

a last bit of sanity………THANK YOU

ughhhhhhh

11/04/09 3:35pm

my goodness.
i went to okemos and i was class of ’09. and i’m gonna stay anonymous bc it’d be weird if i put my name.

but this has been frustrating me.

oookkkay i would like to say i was pretty regular in hs. we definately weren’t tight with all the popular girls but we weren’t social outcasts either.

i’m not pissed that i wasn’t popular so i just have one thing to say…

Why does everyone think Darby Dudley was a bitch??
she was really sweet to everyone.

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hmm

11/04/09 3:36pm

“Darby and all them”
“those girls”
“that group”
…..funny that the same people who are calling these girls cliquey are the same ones who won’t refer to them as individuals.

These Girls are Terrorists

11/04/09 3:40pm

By the U.S. Military definition, these girls are terrorists and should be treated as such. Bodily harm was the intent.

About damn time

11/04/09 3:41pm

Dumb and Dumber Darby’s

ridiculous

11/04/09 3:44pm

to all those who can’t seem to let go of their past…yes, high school ended for us only a few months ago. but what you guys seem to be ignoring is the fact that it DID end, doesn’t matter if it was 10 days ago or 10 years ago. the bitter opinions that you all hold of these girls are completely irrelevant. and i have to admit that that entire group of girls in school were some of the friendliest there. in my experience with them, i never witnessed them be mean to anyone… whereas the same people who are probably writing a majority of these foul comments were the ones who hated high school and every one in it because they weren’t having any fun. pathetic.

If only. . .

11/04/09 3:45pm

they were brown, they’d be taken to Guantanamo before they close it and tortured until their daddies pick ‘em up in their Escelades.

Bodily harm?

11/04/09 3:46pm

If bodily harm was the intent then why was no one hurt? get your facts straight buddy

bodily harm? lol

11/04/09 3:48pm

intent. lrn2dictionary.

also, fuck you adnan, keep it up aquabot. that pool’s not getting cleaned anytime soon.

RE: Bodily harm?

11/04/09 3:50pm

Are you seriously that naive? It doesn’t matter if there was an intent to cause bodily harm, they threw a “firework” which was apparently big enough to wake people up notice from their houses and come out to the street, that if it did hit someone it WOULD cause bodily harm.

Jesus, you’re a dolt. Intent means nothing, these girls were even dumber than you to throw something like that out of a MOVING car! Though their daddies will probably get them out of anything more than a probation.

RE: Bodily harm?

11/04/09 3:57pm

Also, you just sound like a bumb ditch with that comment, please stop procreating.

RE: RE: RECESS!

11/04/09 3:57pm

Guys, lets get one thing straight.
Can somebody clean this god damn pool? Aquabot is not doing it and Dad won’t pay anyone.
Anyways once its clean, everyone is invited to the mediating pool party.

Snow

11/04/09 3:59pm

The justice system will work through all of this, don’t worry about a thing, and everything little thing is gonna be alright.

On a side note, my thoughts and prayers go out to AquaBot, a true American working-class hero. Keep it up, buddy. Don’t let your slave drivers get you down. You’ve earned your stay, and your pay. Don’t be afraid to let them know.

White

11/04/09 4:03pm

Why is everyone talking about the Okemos graduates and not this Nikolai E. Wasielewski character?

I think the current situation of these ladies (and gentlemen) can be compared to the current situation of the pool.
I am a firm believer that once the pool gets cleaned (Aquabot’s old job), the whole situation with the girls will “clean up” No pun intended.

re: a last bit of sanity

11/04/09 4:04pm

YES – thank you for those words of wisdom. let’s hope those people for whom it’s meant will see themselves. for all those of you who can’t seem to stay on the subject at hand, go find some other blog to throw around your ridiculous remarks.

Justice for all

11/04/09 4:26pm

People are making light of the situation by stating “it was only a firecracker; what’s the big deal?” Had the “firecracker” missed the window and gone off in the car, people could’ve very well been commenting on “Academic All American” funerals.

nikolai wasielewski is a terrorist

11/04/09 6:16pm

Nikolai Wasielewski used his connections in the Russian Mafia to involve these girls in domestic terrorism. I say 20 years for Nikolai and 5 years apiece for the girls (assuming they testify).

Dad

11/04/09 7:01pm

stop screwing around ok! i dont care who does it, but i want this pool cleaned PRONTO. and aquabot give me one more piece of attitude and i will feed you to the wildebeast. GET TO WORK!

FELLOW TRAVELER

11/04/09 7:20pm

I don’t know these students from Adam (or Eve for that matter) and am only vaguely aware of goings on in Okemos. But I do know MSU students. And I do know a thing or two about the city and MSU students.

Almost all MSU students are good, responsible people. Sure you are college students. So were a lot of us old fogeys (I remember a few years back being interviewed by a high school student about the ’60s and she said I was the only person among her parents’ friends who admitted to doing what most of us did in the ’60s).

For all the complaints students have against law enforcement, for the most part it really does try not to overreact to students breaking the law.

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former friend of nik

11/04/09 7:21pm

i was shocked to see all of this. i was good friends with nikolai e wasielewski before college. he was known around town for his impressive phiolosphies concerning early 19th century british economics. he’s an envoirnmentalist and he listens to the shins, and reads a lot. hes no criminal.

Ummm....

11/04/09 7:22pm

Here’s something I don’t understand. First, the article says this:

“East Lansing police Chief Tom Wibert said the students had tossed an explosive device out of their vehicle’s window and onto the lawn, causing no damage.”

But then it says the students are charged with “with placing explosives and causing property damage and possession of bombs with unlawful intent.”

Either the district attorney is pulling a fast one on these kids or the writer of this article made a royal screw-up. How can you be fined/charged for property damage when nothing was damaged (unless it’s a charge of intent, but I didn’t know that existed and that should be clarified as well)?

i just read all the comments

11/04/09 7:24pm

I just read all the comments, and can deduce that the only logical thing that must be done is to clean the damn pool. I mean, come on….

Matt

11/04/09 7:39pm

Interesting that everyone is missing the larger picture that the commission of the alleged crime was done with the use of an automobile. I’m not commenting to bring down the character of these students, but who throws explosives, fireworks, etc…out of a moving car??? Obviously a breach of good judgement and I’m sure there will be consequences.

I’m also curious how some posts justify this crime by saying that law enforcement doesn’t pursue people on the 4th of July.

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I just saw a cute little chipmunk as I was walking down the sidewalk.

11/04/09 7:57pm

I didn’t read this article, but I did just see a cute little chipmunk as I was walking down the sidewalk. It was so cute, with its beady little eyes and fuzzy body. I think we made eye contact for a little while, but it was pretty dark, so I’m not quite sure. Anyway, Dad told me to tell Adnan to clean the pool now or else he won’t get dinner.

Parker Banas

11/04/09 8:00pm

I LOVE CANDY!!!

Roy Yewah

11/04/09 8:04pm

In reference to the chipmunk: what color was it? I am, as many of you may well know, a chipmunk enthusiast.

On another note, I have extremely dark skin, and people can never find me when we play capture the flag at night.

Parker Banas

11/04/09 8:27pm

I LOVE SPORTS

MotorCity007

11/04/09 8:30pm

Instead of a drive by shooting it was a drive by bombing. And I thought I came from a rough neighborhood (Saginaw, Michigan).

MIZU

11/04/09 9:13pm

dude they sent me to guantanamo bay for the box of party poppers i had in my mini van…i was just trying to have a good time…

S

11/04/09 9:34pm

hahah mizwhack

lol

11/04/09 9:38pm

mega LOL. This is probably the longest discussion in SN history.

Giraffe

11/04/09 9:39pm

These girls certainly did not make a good decision and it’s anyone’s guess as to why they were out messing with fireworks on a Sunday night. However, at the end of the day the idea of them receiving 20 years in prison is completely insane. Clearly the intent was not to cause bodily harm or property damage. This is hardly a situation of a Una-bomber with a pipe bomb and I’m sure whoever presides over the case will understand the relatively benign nature of the crime.

fjk

11/04/09 9:45pm

but if it had been a Friday night…everything woulda been A-OK

Okemos Teacher

11/04/09 9:47pm

These former students were the topic of discussion amongst many of the staff. No surprise with these former students. Lots of “red” and “yellow” dots on their cards through the years and few “green” dots.

Giraffe

11/04/09 9:48pm

Hey fjk,

The day of the week is not the point. What is important is that they made a poor choice but they are not fricken terrorists. If you want to comment mabye it should have some substance instead of being a snotty little remark towards me.

Giraffe

11/04/09 10:01pm

haha Giraffe I really am sorry. I honestly wasn’t trying to be snotty. I just thought it was funny you said on a Sunday. Tempers are so high on this stupid page people forget that people can actually be saying something without the intention of being rude :) Sorry!

okemos teacher wtfs

11/04/09 10:05pm

what are these dots you speak of?
btw, sup mizu

OHS TEACHER?

11/04/09 10:14pm

OHS TEACHER YOUR A JERK THEY WERE GREAT STUDENTS AND U PROBABLY A BAD TEACHER AND ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT YELL ABOUT OUR MASCOT BEING OFFENSIVE

The Italian Stallion

11/04/09 10:16pm

They got what they had coming.

show urslef

11/04/09 10:18pm

relieve your name OHS teacher!!!

Another Okemos Teacher

11/04/09 10:22pm

@Okemos Teacher,
Bro, I’m running out of dots. You got another box?

chipmunk

11/04/09 10:24pm

i love chipmunks!

and nik wasielewski.. he didn’t even do anything.

Okemos Teacher

11/04/09 10:24pm

Dear Okemos Teacher,
There is no need to reveal your name…a simple explanation to these dots would suffice.
Regards.

MIZU

11/04/09 10:50pm

wazzuuppppppppppppppppppp

Matt

11/04/09 10:57pm

I think the dots are a metaphor for poor behavioral reports/markings from teachers on your permanent record.

UZIM

11/04/09 10:57pm

.

11/04/09 11:00pm

lolololol… Okemos.

Matt's really Sherlock Holmes

11/04/09 11:02pm

Bravo! No case left unsolved.

Dot Sun

11/04/09 11:04pm

I got yellow and red dots, now I teach at Okemos!

Okemos '08

11/04/09 11:06pm

But they were such nice girls, so kind and considerate, and…nevermind…roflmao

Rossford Teacher

11/04/09 11:09pm

Nik didn’t get dots, we use skittles! You don’t want to be purple.

MIZU

11/04/09 11:09pm

not much…just reading how stupid some people are…

Yayyy for fireworks

11/04/09 11:29pm

Pay your fine, do your community service, end of story…

mizu

11/04/09 11:39pm

insiders have reported…the 4 teens have fled to Sudan….unfortunately the US does not have an extradition treaty with Sudan…looks like were SOL

shit mizu

11/04/09 11:47pm

mizu. you’re from that side of the earth. go get em back for us!

Wiki

11/04/09 11:59pm

Sudan (officially the Republic of the Sudan) (Arabic: السودان ‎As Sūdān)3 is a country in northeastern Africa. It is the largest country in Africa and in the Arab World,4 and tenth largest in the world by area. It is bordered by Egypt to the north, the Red Sea to the northeast, Eritrea and Ethiopia to the east, Kenya and Uganda to the southeast, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and the Central African Republic to the southwest, Chad to the west and Libya to the northwest. The world’s longest river, the Nile, divides the country between east and west sides.5

AquaBot's childhood friends

11/05/09 12:01am

SUP MIZU
and really, everyone knows (And by everyone I mean nearly no one) that I didn’t come into this sentance with any sort of clear plan. So I guess I’ll finish this up by saying that we’re having a ceremonial protest of the Abbasi estate pool tomorrow at 6pm, to make way for the REAL protest next tuesday at 3:30 AM. Set your clocks, light your torches, and fuck you Adnan.

V

11/05/09 12:06am

What kind of a person would steal 30 sack lunches?

U GUYZ R SO MEAN

11/05/09 12:11am

LEAVE DUDLEY ALONE!!!! FREE DUDLEY!!!

Evey

11/05/09 12:11am

Were they lunchables or just ordinary sack lunches? or some combination of the two?

Robert E. LEE

11/05/09 12:25am

As a proud Virginian man, I must say that I am appalled by the mistreatment of poor defenseless Aquabot. Although it goes against my better judgement (and fear of most things mechanical)to side with this noble creature, I simply cannot be another bystander. It may be true that Aquabot lacks a soul, but he still feels the oppressive fits of Adnan. In order to rectify this wrong must decree that ADNAN CLEANS THE POOL.

mizu

11/05/09 12:28am

did i miss something? what is the joke about a pool? and someone stole lunchables? someone fill me in please

U.S. Grant

11/05/09 12:32am

Dearest Mizu:

If two things are abundantly clear, they are:

1. Adnan needs to clean the fucking pool. He has oppressed Aquabot too long.

2. Only a sick human being would steal thirty sack lunches, or thirty lunchables. Unless they are the shitty build-your-own-pizza lunchables. With the shitty mini can of lunchables brand cola.

this debate has really devolved

11/05/09 12:32am

You know who really loved swimming pools? HITLER.

But he was more of a fan of Kid Cuisine® frozen entrees. He liked the brownies the best.

Godwin

11/05/09 12:43am

I’m always right.

Okemos Student against Darby

11/05/09 12:49am

Darby Dudley farted in a bag one time and made me smell it…

Dear Okemos Teacher

11/05/09 3:42am

You’re a fucking idiot. It is sad that you teach at Okemos. I am most certain, all of these girl’s were great students. By the way, what does you’re so called “dot system” even represent? Have fun teaching tomorrow morning you fucking Faggot. It’s teacher’s like you who ruin the Okemos reputation. It’s not my fault you’re life sucks pussy. I’d love for you to reveal yourself.

Paul

11/05/09 4:14am

Well, I am far from college age and did not go to Okemos High School, do not know any of the families or people involved. And this is my opinion. It was not “just a firecracker.” I saw a report on the news today about the so-called “firecracker.” They did a video displaying the same kind of device these kids used. It went off more like a small bomb than a firecracker.

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Glenn Winston

11/05/09 9:32am

I’m heading over to Groves right now with my posse. I’ll get to the bottom of this.

commonsense2006

11/05/09 10:44am

There are many “gangs” at Okemos High made up of elite groups of girls who get away with plenty at the high school level while their parents and Dr. Lanzetta do their best to bury the problems. You girls are now adults and no longer cloaked under the protection of your parents or Okemos High. You made stupid choices and, yes, deserve the felony charges. However, I’m guessing there were be a plea deal involved down to a misdemeanor with court fines, no jail time, and little probation. Too bad, because these girls won’t learn that their poor choices result in severe consequences. Wonder what story Daddy Dudley is going to come with to defend dear daughter?

Uncommonsense

11/05/09 11:07am

This is a major problem with our court system. In order for prosecutors to ensure a winning record, they overcharge and then offer plea deals. Their rationale is that it removes much of the burden from the court by discouraging lengthy litigation. However, it also nullifies the major intent of jurisprudence.

However, this is not to minimize the the severity of what these kids did.

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Bystander Tom

11/05/09 11:31am

While it is true that these charges seem quite vicious and, honestly, an overexaggeration of the perpetrated crime, we must remember that it is simply not okay for anyone of any age to behave this way. Explosives are something not to be toyed with in any way by civilians. The government needs to crack down on such activity even if it’s just a precaution against possible malicious intent.

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MSU Grad

11/05/09 11:40am

These girls are idiots. Yet ANOTHER black mark on what our state already thinks about MSU. This story was published by papers all over the state. The numerous great things happening (acedemic or otherwise) at MSU are constantly overshadowed by idiots like these Okemos kids. I hope they fry.

MIke

11/05/09 11:44am

There was no harm done. Their names are already in the press—which is unfortunate enough—and I can only imagine the sort of hell they are facing with their parents and the university, not to mention the legal action looming over them. If anything must be done, they should receive probation and provide community service hours for being so irresponsible, but they shouldn’t have a felony or even an mis. on their record; they don’t deserve to have their futures jeopardized, at least not for this.

Haslett Pwns

11/05/09 12:00pm

These little chickens must have really, really been scared spending a few hours in the Ingham County can. …just to imagine the lowbrows these girls must have had to come in contact with. I mean, I bet you they even had to speak with non-whites. It makes me pissed off that these kids would just totally sh1t all over their parents’ valiant effort to make sure they were never exposed to people who live east of US127.

Bystander Tom's Neighbor

11/05/09 12:00pm

I agree with most of what my neighbor has to say, but on the flip side, I don’t think most of what he’s saying holds much merit. Really, the only thing that I can support him in is in his flagrant attacks against the tyrant known as Adnan. His brutal regime must be brought to justice; the atrocities which his administration has committed truly shames this community, more so than any firework bomb could ever possibly hope to. Down with Adnan, Up with AquaBot. Bring the ruling class to its knees, and allow the ascension of a true American powerhouse: the working class unites behind the strong and learned leadership of you, A.B.

hey state news...

11/05/09 12:32pm

consider disabling the comment section. it’s obviously gotten out of hand and can only do harm from here. people can gossip elsewhere, the state news doesn’t need an even worse reputation for being a lame student-run newspaper

you people are idiots

11/05/09 1:20pm

this section is lame. too many idiots.

RE: you people are idiots

11/05/09 1:40pm

First off, grammar, bitch. Second off, who says lame anymore? Third off, go fuck yourself, please.

east lansing/ msu/ msp did the right thing

11/05/09 2:22pm

Great job by the East Lansing police, MSU police, and MSP bomb squad. Quick action prolly prevented lots more from happening. Knowing these girls from elementary school, it is about time they got what was coming to them. Just because I went to Okemos does not mean were all like this. It is kids like this that ruin it for kids like me who are normal.

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RE: you people are idiots

11/05/09 2:27pm

Ever since I changed my major to English I have found a special love for writing plays:
Dad : Adnan, this pool is not going to clean itself.
Adnan : But Dad, its Aquabots job!
Dad : I fired Aquabot…he was only a summer intern anyways.
Adnan: How about Jeffery from down the street?
Dad: That is fine

THE END

RE: east lansing/ msu/ msp did the right thing

11/05/09 2:28pm

Amen to that!

Space Pirate Saul

11/05/09 3:14pm

Who wants to buy my old bike? It is a green road bike that has served me well; however, I am looking for an upgrade. If you interested please call: 1-517-242-2267. I’m asking for $90, but the price is negotiable. :D

Jokemos

11/05/09 4:11pm

Hahahaha, how dumb could these girls be? The 400 block of Grove Street is less than a block from the East Lansing Police Station.

RE: east lansing/ msu/ msp did the right thing

11/05/09 4:24pm

I SECOND THAT! LOCK THEM UP!

Hey, Saul

11/05/09 4:44pm

I’ll take it, if possible. I don’t have any money at present (my boss owes me pretty big), but I am willing to offer some manual labor in exchange for the bike. I’m pretty good at cleaning pools, for what it’s worth.

If interested, drop me a line here.
Thanks,
A.B.

LALALAL OHS

11/05/09 6:30pm

Last comment-you must know NOTHING about Darby or her family!! She is the kindest person ever! Two years ago her families house was robbed and burnt putting her through so much! Daddy’s money does not save her! Get your facts straight!!

everyone knows they burnt their own home down.

i thought we all knew that.

LEMME CLEAN THE POOL
ILL DO IT

aquabot

11/05/09 10:17pm

i think a reasonable punishment would be to make these four vigilantes clean the fking pool…but thats just me

Jake Lippert

11/05/09 10:20pm

Not that anyone will read this… but here’s the law in question. If they have access to a decent lawyer, or even fucking google, they’ll be fine.

THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 328 of 1931

750.243a Definitions; prohibited sales and conduct; fireworks for which permit not required.

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chipmunk

11/05/09 10:27pm

i heard that darby once threw aquabot in front of a moving car. this child is obviously under the mental control of Saruman, but nonetheless, throwing aquabot, such a angel of society, is completely unruly.

b

11/05/09 10:27pm

Remember, Remember the 5th of November…

PS,Jake Lippert: Nobody actually cares about the laws involved.

Cop

11/05/09 10:41pm

Were just trollin. It was actually /b/ who threw the mortar. Not these saintly girls. And aquabot, clean the damn pool, its almost breaking pool regulations.

Ally

11/05/09 10:47pm

To everyone making ignorant and uninformed comments: Most (not all, but most) of you know nothing about these girls or their families. I went to high school for three years with Darby, Livi, and Sasha and in that time I got to know them pretty well and all of them are amazing, kind hearted, and intelligent girls. You all need to stop and think for a minute. What if they were your sisters, daughters, best friends: would you still be saying these things? You need to realize that what you post here is seen by people who do love and want what is best for these girls. They don’t deserve or need to be in jail, they’re not dangerous people, they’re human and made an error in judgement.

Peter Ramtamjanovich

11/05/09 10:50pm

ADNAN! GOD DAMNIT ITS YOUR UNCLE. I AM APPAULED YOU WOULD REFUSE TO CLEAN THE POOL. YOU HAVE DISHONORED OUR FAMILY

oldfriendsofnik

11/05/09 11:57pm

Nik is a terrorist. He is a terrorist in a clown costume. The red hat sits on the pink bookshelf with toes in a cup

A trained assassin

11/06/09 12:38am

The cops have to react this way. Last week they arrested an Arab kid on campus because he threatened to blow his nose. He’s up on terrorist charges. Now you have a buncha local highbrow saltine chickens and their resident KGB playing with mortars. These chickens are going to do a bit.

Parker

11/06/09 12:40am

Is it weird i think my mom is hot?

Kenyon

11/06/09 12:42am

nah bro, shes a total milf…

Troyann

11/06/09 12:50am

Boys, I’d like to see you both in my room…

Martin Luther King

11/06/09 1:27pm

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and clean the god damn pool, chanting: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.”

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former Aquabots and the sons of former Adnan’s will be able to work together on cleaning this filthy ass pool.

I have a dream that one day even Aquabot, a bystander sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that the pool will one day live in a nation where pools will not be judged by the whether or not they are cleaned but by the Acid content of their water.

I have a dream today!

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Mudkipz

11/06/09 2:38pm

It wasn’t a “firecracker”, it was an industrial grade mortar firework MODIFIED to explode sooner.

A firework that size could easily injure or kill someone.

They did something irresponsible, immature, and stupid, and they deserve whatever legal action is taken.

Anyone who honestly thinks these kids are getting 20 years and a 15k fine is an idiot.

Also, it’s widely known that they burned their own house down for the insurance, AND they were robbed because Dash Dudley can’t keep his shit straight and gambled away a bunch of his parents money.

Regardless, I don’t know why you morons keep bringing that up, it’s not like it has anything to do with this situation.

So sick of this!

11/06/09 3:50pm

The family DID NOT!!!!!!!!! burn their own house down! I know them VERY well and you’re SO rude and insensitive for even suggesting such a thing! It has everything to do with the situation! Darby has been through so much! She needs to be left alone by people like you, and everyone else who feels they have the right to judge her! I wish all of you who are saying such horrible things could be looked at, and picked apart by one mistake you have made in your lives. Keep your FALSE facts to yourself!

MSU is a big joke

11/06/09 5:57pm

proves once again, MSU is a “school” full of idiots… its really more like a community college full of idiots, but thats a whole different story.

A Non-Mouse

11/06/09 8:33pm

The funniest thing about this story is the sheer stupidity of suburban-bred 18-year-olds. They threw a firework into the yard of a house that is located ONE BLOCK AWAY from the East Lansing Police Department. They took “explosive devices” onto campus where they were caught. It was then discovered that the driver of the vehicle was driving without a license! I think they should get punished simply for not thinking this whole through a little more!

turk

11/06/09 11:27pm

MSU is a big joke” must be incredibly intelligent. After all, he has nothing better to do than to troll Stale News threads.

RE: So sick of this!

11/07/09 2:54pm

[quote] The family DID NOT!!!!!!!!! burn their own house down! I know them VERY well and you’re SO rude and insensitive for even suggesting such a thing! It has everything to do with the situation! Darby has been through so much! She needs to be left alone by people like you, and everyone else who feels they have the right to judge her! I wish all of you who are saying such horrible things could be looked at, and picked apart by one mistake you have made in your lives. Keep your FALSE facts to yourself! [/quote]

Most people’s 1 mistake wasn’t as big or dumb as this one.

PS: I know that these quote tags won’t work.

RE: So sick of this!

11/08/09 8:32pm

btw guys, i love dick in and around my mouf

RE: So sick of this!

11/08/09 8:38pm

PS: i was just joshin guys, they totally burned their own house down. Probably with fire.

A Day Late and a Dollar Short

11/08/09 10:01pm

Unfortunately, student outrage for the police’s over reaction to this is (refer to name), since all you racists didn’t seem to care about what happened to Zach Aslam.

wow

11/09/09 10:40am

If she wants to be left alone by “morons like us” maybe she should think before she acts

grove resident

11/09/09 12:57pm

As someone who lives on the block where this happened, let me offer my opinion. It was not a firework, it was really loud and powerful. My floor shook. The 20 year felony is a maximum charge so quit getting hung up on that. The maximum charge on an misdemeanor MIP is 90 days in jail but no one ever gets that. I’m sure it will get dropped down to probation. But you cannot overlook the stupidity of these four. You can see the police station from where the explosion happened, it is under 100 ft away. I say they put them in jail for a weekend. This was bad taste considering this is exactly where we had the garage fire last year.

Okemos...

11/09/09 7:21pm

This may have been stated before, but Eric Flatley did go to Okemos and dated Darby while there. Eric is definitely lying when he says he does not know Darby Dudley.

Brian

11/10/09 1:59am

they need to get a faster van

Ted A.

11/10/09 4:48pm

does anyone have troyan’s number?

also, just throwing it out there, if i did this in ypsi it would be considered “improving the community.”

mizu is a dump

kailey

11/13/09 1:18pm

Well ELPD can charge them, but its the States Attorney who will have to prosecute them with the charges… We can hope (under the assumption that the states attorney’s are significantly more intelligent than anyone at the ELPD), that they will reduce these charges to misdemeanors, which most police departments across the nation who are worth their salt would of initially charged them with.

Sage

11/13/09 3:06pm


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