Music representative resigns at COGS meeting

I would be disappointed in Ms. Richardson if I had any reason to hope that she is a reasonable person. Tragically, nothing in my experience with her has ever done has supported this theory. Fortunately for my sanity this experience has been limited.

This is my second year on COGS, and I’m really pleased with the way this administration (of which I am not a part) conducts business. Unlike the previous one, this administration follows Robert’s Rules. As a result, the meetings don’t devolve into chaos because of the president’s inability to keep on track. It’s amazing; now we can finish in two hours and get to everything on the agenda.

I have to think that “Fellow Rep. at Meeting” is a jerk; there’s absolutely no reason to say that the current president is a “loose individual”. What the hell is wrong with you?

That’s just mean. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anyway, if you were actually at the meeting you’d know that Ms. Richardson didn’t say who she felt had pressured her to resign (a claim I find hard to believe; COGS isn’t structured in such a way that a representative’s resignation has much of an effect). This being so, I have to think that you’ve got some sort of ax to grind against Rachel. Maybe you should man up and talk about that instead of hiding behind another person’s childish attention whoring.

You also should try not to be a jerk.

With respect, I must disagree entirely with what was said in the previous comment, concerning the conduct of the President Naegele. I was also at the meeting yesterday evening, and am a member of the Council of Graduate Students. I am by no means speaking in my official capacity, however, rather as an individual professional student.

Its author demonstrates, not only a lack of common decency, and mental clarity, they also demonstrate an inability to articulate any particular argument. President Naegele is asked to resign in the comment, on the basis of nothing more then characterizations, and inflammatory statements, rather then a rational basis.

To address the singularly small point of actual substance in the prior post. Representative Fellow Rep at the Meeting, seems to imply that spending 5 years on an organization constitutes some knowledge of an organization both in how it is run, and in how one should conduct themselves in the meeting. Following the conduct which I have seen, this is not the case. Further there was no evidence at the meeting, which indicated anything about any of President Naegele’s conduct in particular. What the comments from Ms. Richardson indicated, was an board issue, not any particular member. Unless of course Fellow Rep at the Meeting knows something they aren’t sharing.

The final point that bears mentioning is that Ms. Richardson has not attended any prior meetings this year. While she might feel necessary to resign in a highly controversial manner, it is hardly conducive to holding her statements in regard as any more then mere misrepresentations.

Grow up. you quit because someone didnt give you the respect you wanted in a communication? How about you get a bit tougher…are you going to quit your job if a coworker is mean to you? what about when (not if) you have a poor boss? You’re a grad student, its time to be an adult. If its truly that bad then you need to bring it to peoples attention.

Trust me guys MSU student governments are best at bickering! Thought only ASMSU had problems in its leadership, COGS has some serious ones as well.

From the article it appears that Naegele said something to piss the rep and was apparently expecting her resignation.

Naegele said “I didn’t necessarily see it coming, but I was not surprised… because of previous feelings.”

previous feelings? Naegele had something going on with this rep.? :-o

Thanks Ms. Ackroyd for asking that student to get in touch with ASMSU.

There was an interesting observation made by the reporter who has a journalist eye. First of all, I must say most of the e-board members of COGS are trying to do their best to service the graduate student community. They seem to be honest, as far as I am concerned. However a few COGS leaders are ignoring students’ voices, trading graduate students interests for their personal benefits. COGS e-board are just like a Titanic ship with a Captain heading in the wrong direction.
For example, President of COGS Rachel Naegele, played dirty tricks and lied to COGS that she will represent student’s voice to get elected to her current position and subsequently has no trust from the graduate students overall, especially the international student community. Her actions have damaged COGS a great deal. Even though many graduate student programs have been cut, graduate students do not go to COGS full council meetings to complain because they do not believe their interests are being represented. By selling graduate students interests for her personal interests she is killing the organization. Only a fool would follow a leader with only self-interests in mind.

This is a response to: International graduate students voice

Seriously? I mean seriously? Were you at that meeting? President Naegele didn’t use a dirty trick, she gave the outgoing president the benefit of the doubt and even offered to resign, something which the full council declined.

At some point there is a need to move on and do what is best for the students, not dwell on past perceived wrongs. Some thicker skin is needed, as well as a greater sense of “let us do what is best for our constituents”.

All of us have been ‘wronged’ at one time or another, whining about it doesn’t help.

rabble rabble rabble rabble!

Everyone knows how COGS elections were carried out to elect Naegele as COGS President. There are past reports in Press about it. That is why, the Academic Governance is in process of review of elections that were conducted out of order.

Undergrad: Ms. Richardson had asked Naegele to step aside from her ill-gotten position
Perhaps I believe that is the reason Naegele had talked about some previous feelings.

I agree with the previous response, there is no doubt that her actions have damaged COGS a great deal. In a much larger setting it has damaged a fair representation of graduate students (domestic as well as international). If she was so sure of getting the Presidency, why did she and her board not step down after the full council voted that the elections were coerced? The Full Council accepted for a fact that the COGS elections were coerced and against the spirit of an informed civil society. I guess that is more than enough to say on Naegele’s Presidency. The vote of confidence on any particular candidate for a President was a sham once it was decided by Council about the nature of election at first place. She can choose to stick as COGS President for long enough but there is no denying on her ill-gotten position and unethical stance throughout.

What is ethically wrong is also politically wrong. Politics which chooses to violate the fundamentals of the ethical code is doomed. In pretext of moving ahead since that is what is best for students, may be the board needed to rethink. How can the constituents be benefited when everyone including the administration knows by what means the COGS President and her board was elected – not at the least as the voice of an informed civil society at MSU!