Police look into sexual assault at fraternity

I would wait and let the police finish their investigation before “taking a stand against the disgusting greeksystem.” At this point “police are unsure whether the assailant was affiliated with the fraternity….” You don’t have all or even most of the facts.

So when an on-campus aggravated assault occurs, the University refuses to acknowledge if any student groups (Football team) were involved, yet when a sexual assault occurs the name of the fraternity is not kept private until more evidence is gathered?

I am an alumni of the house in question, and there is no doubt in my mind that what occurred (or what did not occur?) did not involve any Lambda Chis. My guess is that this is a typical day after grasp by a girl who made a conscious choice and regrets it.

As for the Greek system being disgusting? Were you referring to Greek’s being more personable, having a higher GPA, better/higher paying jobs, or involvement in more commonunity outreach that their non-Greek peers?

sorry…“Community” (hard to proofread in this little box)

Disgusting nonGreek system.

The football team is affiliated with MSU and the athletic department and they don’t publicly announce names. Frats are not, they only said the location of the rape, not that any brother was involved but way to be defensive about that. Maybe you should do as they do at ASU and remove every copy of the state news to avoid the bad press. Rape on!

Of course just blame the frat, they hold parties and let random people in all in the spirit of having a good time and of course one little mistake occurs and all hell breaks loose. Damn the IFC sucks, if someone screws up… punish them not there whole house of the greek system in general, thats messed up.

Obviously you are talking about an ALLEGED rape. There is nothing to be defensive about. Lambda Chi has 10 sober monitors at any house party, including the president, risk manager, etc. to try to prevent these type of alleged situations.

I know everyone’s cousin’s friend’s sister’s boyfriend once knew a girl who went to a frat house and got roofied, and the Fox show Greek is a completely accurate depiction of fraternity life, so all frats must be the same. In reality, Lambda Chi is a fraternity with strictly enfored rules on member behavior and participation, and is doing more for this university that the majority of students out there. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt, unlike the ALLEGED (and proven untrue) Notre Dame tailgate sexual assualt from a few years ago or the Duke Lacrosse debacle.

We can all see where this is going. Freshman girl screams GHB after doing triple shots of tequilla all night, blacked out, and woke up in a random bed. Not saying that’s what happened, but more likely than not that’s what happened.

Rape/taking advantage of someone is repugnant. But before you talk about “disgusting Greek system”, please remember that the only difference between Greeks and nongreeks is the organized nature of the former. I can assure you these things don’t happen in my house for example but if they, god forbid, ever did, that brother would be expelled and sent to jail in a heartbeat.

You live in an apartment and a few friends and decide to have a party, a few friends of friends show up and one of them end up raping a girl.

Does that make everyone in the apartment a disgusting rapist dirtball?

Typical MSU frat life…not a surprise whatsoever, unfortunately.

We all know the real problem here: alcohol. If we still had prohibition, many of our nation’s problems would be solved.

I mean. Is there anyone who DOESN’T make fun of frat kids? They’re a plague. MSU would be the most perfect place on Earth if there weren’t any frat houses. So tired of hearing about these IDIOTS and the garbage they get themselves into. What a bunch of STUPID kids. I thought about rushing a frat my freshman year, but instead I killed myself. It was hilarious. I’d do it all over again if I had the chance.

To GREEK: Yes. that should answer your question.

To Quin Shi: Shut up. Relax. and have a beer.

To Darko and Stevedavidsonrick: I agree. mostly. There is ONE house that I belong to, and its awesome. So please do not include ALL Frats in this argument.

Sincerely, OMEGA brother.

If you are conceited enough to shout out a random Greek letter and erroneously expect everyone to know what reputation you carry, you must be a stupid frat boy or sorority girl. Go back to making your presence known by preying on drunk girls, and leave the honorable Greek alphabet alone.

Im a member of a fraternity, Ive seen one potential rape. Not anywhere near the fraternity but hundreds of miles away at a party in my hometown.

I was one of the few people that stopped it from happening and got a black eye and a few bruises from doing so.

If I was to steriotype an entire racial group because of the actions of one of its members I would be scorned and called a racist, but when people use an outdated steriotype to generalize the greek system they somehow strenghten the steriotypes against them despite the truth of fiction behind it.

The chance this “rape rescue” story from the comment before mine is true? ZERO.

What a LIAR you are. You didn’t save anyone from rape. No one is going to buy that. You’re a FRAT guy. You are NOTHING without a large contingent of your friends.

Got into an argument with a frat guy at Ricks. He told me I’d have to deal with “the whole crew” if I wasn’t careful.

Can’t fight your own battles?

Similar thing happened at Landshark. I was warned that this kid is well respected within the frat and I should tread carefully.

What a bunch of spineless cowards that never say ANYTHING unless at least 5 of their default friends are around.

Let’s do a bar crawl! And wear stupid matching shirts that tell everyone how much they wish they could be us!

Look. My dad, owns this dealership.

I wonder if frat guys go to the bathroom together for moral support, like sorority girls do?

Dear Disgusting nonGreek system,

“As for the Greek system being disgusting? Were you referring to Greek’s being more personable, having a higher GPA, better/higher paying jobs, or involvement in more commonunity outreach that their non-Greek peers?”

1) Maybe in the packaging profession.
2) I bet your parents drive your 30 year old broke-ass to football games and alum meetings.
3) Thanks for misspelling “community.” It makes your argument so much more legible.

What I said was true, it was a guy from Northern Michigan University who was trying to get with an girl I knew from high school.

She was in a bedroom in my friends apartment passed out, I saw him walk inside and he had two friends sorta watching the door so no one would come in.

Me and one of my friends asked them what was going on. They told us it was none of our business. We told them we wanted to check on her and he told us a friend was with her. When they wouldn’t let us in we got into a fight, i ended up getting into the room and stopping the guy who was already on top of her he wasn’t naked or anything but his intent was obvious. He didn’t fight me but just left, but they guy in the hall punched me in the face, gave me a blood nose, and kicked me when i was on the ground, if it wasn’t for my friend with me I probably could have gotten seriously injured.

Have you ever met someone who is greek, have you ever actually talked to anybody in the greek system. Your ignorant and wrong to generalize an entire community based on the actions of a few.

Is there ANY reason this IDIOT is rambling on about this terrible story other than to point out that he’s a hero so chicks will dig him? Especially since the only way he’s getting laid is by means of RAPE?

What a LOSER you are dude. Is there anything better than “YOUR IGNORANT”? Guy is insulting someone’s intelligence while misunderstanding the use of simple contractions as in “YOU ARE = YOU’RE”

There’s no way this moron graduates. Because if he does, I might as well wipe my ass with my degree.

Kill yourself.

My comment is directed to all posters regarding this article:

As a female on this campus I feel more concerned walking around East Lansing, where people get BEATEN and no details are released. Where people break into HOUSES and justice is not served. The fact that there is an ALLEGED crime at a fraternity house is NO DIFFERENT then what occurs nightly at house, apartment and even dorm parties. The only people that have any right to comment on this article are the girls that are preyed upon in our community. Most of the crime that occurs in EL is due to outside people coming in to our community where they take advantage of those who may be incapacitated.

Furthermore, yes, Greek Life is associated with MSU- they are an MSU recognized organization, much like the football team. I am just curious as to why it is not made public when incidents involving members of athletic organizations occur. The State News did not need to report that this ALLEGED crime occurred at a fraternity, they simply needed to say “a house on Collingwood.” The bias of this paper is disgusting, and those who are ignorant enough to point fingers and ridicule Greek Life without ever being involved should be ashamed of themselves.

I sincerely hope that non-Greeks show some respect given the recent tragic incidents- how would you feel if a person you considered your brother died? What if you were to go home to your apartment/house/dorm and be found dead in the morning? Please think before you comment about any incidents that have occurred lately- you all just sound ridiculous, immature, and most of all, inhumane.

Thank you,

Stephanie

I cant take any more of this you’re (yes I understand contractions i was lazy in my typing sue me)obviously an ignorant prick with no friends who insults greeks because we have friends and a social life and you dont.

Anyone else whos greek on here stop responding to this story, there is no winning this argument. Its only inflating a story which has no real details other than police are investigating something that could have happened at some time to somebody at a greek house…nothing more

Hey, greek – I’m an older student, worked for about 10 years in IT-related automotive industry jobs before I came here. From the many supervisory positions I held over the years, ranging from a team supervisor for desktop support technicians, to the director of an entire branch of the IT department, I can tell you this: There is a general negativity associated with greek life. If we needed to hire 5 people, interviewed 10, 5 of which made some reference to their greek background (or we found it on their facebook/myspace), the 5 non-greek people were almost ALWAYS given preference. When looking for things to narrow down the search, greek association was ALWAYS a negative point.

I would recommend that you NEVER mention your greek affiliations to any potential employer, unless you are in a low tier industry like business or packaging, where the people hiring you probably couldn’t care less whether you are even capable of functioning properly.

Just a tip.

it’s all old news. rape is the only way greeks get laid. it’s old news. 3 incidents rape/death in less that a month. all those people apologizing for the greeks—you are morons.

since the beginning of this term there have been literally hundreds of these “party rapes”. most of the victims are too embarassed to report it or don’t remember. it’s good someone FINALLY reported this. about time.

girls should be able to dress any way they want. a girl wearing a miniskirt and no panties passed-out drunk at a strange party at 3 AM doesn’t deserve to be raped. the greek culture figures she asked for it.