http://www.statenews.com As of Sunday night, police had not released the identity of the 22-year-old MSU student who died early Saturday morning after a roommate found him unresponsive on his bedroom couch at Alpha Gamma Rho fraternity, 432 Evergreen Ave. en-us Gryphon 2.2.3b-tsn (woodward)/Foundry5 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:59:12 -0500 webmaster@statenews.com http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49233 Unless you have something positive to say, to memorialize the victim of this tragedy, then you do not need to say it. We do not need lots of unfounded and unappreciated comments about this. This is a horrible situation for everyone involved. My thoughts go out to the friends and family of this Spartan. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:45:46 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49233 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49234 What a tragic event. My thoughts and prayers are with the entire AGR family. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:49:57 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49234 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49239 Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family. As a neighbor and a 4H fellow member we are deeply saddened by this tragic event. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:06:51 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49239 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49241 http://www.lenconnect.com/obituaries/x1682933690/Brian-Charles-McMillen Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:46:31 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49241 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49256 A terrible tragedy indeed. However, it was a preventable one (assuming it was alcohol related). Choosing not to discuss the preventability of it only leads to more unnecessary loss of life. Frankly this story isn’t a memorial to him and I would hope he would want something proactive to come from his tragic death. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:23:01 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49256 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49250 I am pleased to see that the vultures have stayed away this time, and hopefully learned from the horrible lesson that the Ryan Rosman situation taught us. If you don’t have anything positive to say, then don not say anything. Times like these can best be used for reflection on the fleeting and precious nature of life. In an instant, it can be taken away from any one of us. As we approach Thanksgiving, my prayer is that everyone who read this article considers that for which they are grateful, and the gift of life that they still have. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:09:59 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49250 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49251 I take it as an offense when friends or family of the victim tell us all not to comment about these deaths. This especially goes when the deaths are cause by the victim’s poor decision making. In this case, a not uncommon cause of over-drinking is the apparent cause. This is a serious subject on college campuses due to a combination of party atmosphere, immaturity, and students being free of parental control. If we cannot discuss the role bad decision making played in it, then we might as well not print this story at all. This over sensitivity to the family has manifested itself in bizarre ways. Some went as far as to criticize the State News for publishing corner’s comments regarding why a student drank methanol that killed him. http://www.statenews.com/index.php/article/2009/04/report_methanol_poisoning_caused_death_of_msu_senior I understand some people are insensitive, but don’t try to block honest inquiry into the cause of this. Sometimes people make poor decisions with bad consequences. If we are blocked from looking into it, then how are we to explore ways to stop these preventable deaths from happening? Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:12:58 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49251 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49252 I am very saddened by the death of Brian and it makes everyone realize the need to live every day as your last. He was a very bright student and will be missed by everyone that knew him. He, his family at home and at school will be in my thoughts and prayers. That being said, I am very disturbed by the fact that AGR has issued the statement that “there was no social function at the Fraternity that night.” Many people know there was a party and bar crawl. I guess I might be a little naive to what a “social event” is but in my book those would be considered social events. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:23:32 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49252 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49254 My point was simply that speculating about this particular death and this particular student serves no purpose. Neither would sharing personal information about what happened, since there will not be any fair way to challenge anything said here. However, it IS fair to talk about the potential issues related (e.g., alcohol abuse), as long as it is done with FACTS and not emotionally charged blaming. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:47:44 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49254 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49257 “Daley said alcohol was a factor in the death, but toxicology and autopsy reports have yet to be released.” If there are no results yet, how come they always jump to this conclusion? I am not saying alcohol was not a factor, but that is always the first thing assumed with college students Prayers to the family and friends Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:32:57 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49257 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49259 Don’t jump to conclusions. He could have had a prexisting heart condition or possibly some adverse reaction/interaction to one or more medications. We owe it to whomever died to discuss the circumstances, but only when we know them. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:42:41 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49259 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49260 The death of such an intelligent young man is such a tragedy; I can’t even begin to fathom what his parents and family are experiencing right now and my heart goes out to them. To “please DO comment”, while your intentions are good, this is NOT the place to write about the maturity of the student involved, especially when you obviously weren’t close to him. As someone who went to school with Brian (and his younger brother), I know first hand just how smart he was. He graduated second in his class from AHS and enjoyed a successful career at MSU. While I agree that alcohol can pose a problem, especially for freshmen and those less experienced with drinking, Brian was a man of legal drinking age and was not what you would consider a problem drinker. Your statements about his immaturity and lack of parental control make very clear just how insensitive and cruel you are. As is said above and daily, if you have nothing nice to say, DON’T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. To John, I agree with you entirely. Thank you for being the mature one here. Brian, you will be greatly missed by many. Rest In Peace. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:43:13 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49260 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49264 If you want to join a Frat house it’s your choice. Choose your friend’s wisely is the old saying. However, to blame MSU for individuals bad desicions is just plan stupid. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:40:01 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49264 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49265 MSU needs to do away with the Greek system. The 2 latest incidents should be the death blow. The Greek system is a haven for people without the “people skills” to make friends to seek validation from a bunch of (similarly situated) socially inept idiots. MSU needs to take the blame for EVEN allowing the Greeks a place on their campus! Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:46:46 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49265 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49269 As somebody who knows several of the AGR brothers, it deeply saddens me to hear someone generalize all fraternity members into one group. Those members of AGR that I know are respectable men who are involved in university activities outside of AGR and very hard working which I am sure is symbolic of the fraternity as a whole. Brian was an extremely intelligent person who was the victim of a horrible accident. Instead of being accusatory, you should honor a fellow spartan, and show support for his mourning brothers. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:04:34 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49269 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49272 John – Thanksgiving has nothing to do with prayers. RIP Brian. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:31:23 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49272 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49274 I cant beleive the lack of respect that a lot of people are showing to this young man, his family and his friends. The article says alcohol was a factor but toxicology reports are not back. Word from the hospitol is that his BAC wasnt high enough to cause death! However even if it was that makes no excuse to criticize MSU or the Greek system!!! Just because the public has clouded you judgement with a very poor stereotype of what a fraternity is does not mean the stereotype is correct and acurate. Some of the most successful leaders in the US were members of fraternities. A fraternity teaches valuable principles (at least a good one)! Stop blaming MSU, the greek system, or this fraternity! This was an accident and until the results of the autopsy are realeased please dont make generalizations. Imagine if it was one of your friends or family memebers that this happened to! Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:36:47 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49274 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49276 I would just like to say that Brian’s death was shocking and horrifying. It was a complete wake up call to me that this could happen to literally anyone. Whether it is your sister, boyfriend, or neighbor. Brian was very smart, talented, and a genuinely nice farm boy. He had an amazing, supportive family that I’m sure is hurting right now (my prayers are with you). I know it’s easy to wave a finger at him or the frat, especially when you don’t know him, but try to see how scary this is. Put yourself in his friends and families shoes. He was not a “punk” by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe we just need to slow down and look out for each other. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:41:06 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49276 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49277 The Greek system encourages this kind of thing. It encourages binge drinking, out of control excursions that lead to people with MIPs hiding from the cops and rape. These are not “unfounded stereotypes” they are REALITY. If it wasn’t for the Greek system at MSU, Ryan and Brian would be alive. Think about that! Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:42:44 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49277 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49278 “The article says alcohol was a factor but toxicology reports are not back. Word from the hospitol is that his BAC wasnt high enough to cause death!” So police who are investigating know less than someone who gave “word from the hospital?” Toxicology isn’t in but someone released his BAC? Waffle much? Alcohol can be involved without alcohol poisoning being the cause of death. Alcohol can interact with legal prescription medicines, pre-existing conditions, or even cause someone to aspirate food or liquid and choke to death. I agree, don’t jump to conclusions – including assuming that police investigating this incident have no idea what’s going on. This young man’s high school and freshman year don’t matter here – it’s what happened in the 24 hours before his death that do. Let’s hope that the answers are uncovered. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:44:43 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49278 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49280 It’s not a coincidence these deaths and the greek system find themselves in the same story more often than not. And to those of you who don’t like the “generalizing” of your frats, maybe you should keep yourselves in check because you’re sinking the reputation of MSU and furthering the “partying over academics” reputation. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:47:48 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49280 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49281 alcohol can contribute to death without alcohol poisoning being the COD. choking on vomit, interaction with ‘scrips, etc… good point. the fact is, drinking DIDN’T help the situation. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:47:54 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49281 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49282 I believe that Brian choked on his own vomit and died. One of my friends just about died from choking on his own vomit. If it wasn’t for his 68 year old dad hearing him choking on his own vomit and turning his body over he would be dead today. You don’t have to be part of the Greek community to get drunk. There are plenty of bars in the area. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:49:30 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49282 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49283 “these deaths and the Greek system find themselves in the same story” If it weren’t for the Greek system at MSU—Ryan Rosman and Brian McMillen would be alive to celebrate Thanksgiving with their families. That is SIMPLY a fact. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:52:17 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49283 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49284 This is crazy talk. There are Greek systems at EVERY SCHOOL, even the smallest of schools. Most the people making these comments must have had A.) a bad experience at a frat/ sorority. or B.) believe everything they see about Frat’s in the movies/ tv, and have never been to a university. What goes on at Frat’s goes on at house parties, dorms, the bars, and even at parties of people who aren’t in school! There is never an article about all the community service and money raise by the Greek system. Never about the students in general and all they contribute to the area. Also, I was never in a Frat, but come on! Someone lost their life. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:55:09 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49284 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49285 Anon, you’re not telling the whole truth here. They could both be dead even if they weren’t part of a frat house. They both lacked common sense. The Greek community is not to blame for idiots. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:55:24 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49285 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49287 “anon = good point” – That is like saying deaths in other countries at soccer riots are caused by soccer. Not the people who are in the stands. We might as well ban soccer worldwide. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:58:22 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49287 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49288 If NOT for the Greek system. Maybe their lack of common sense, and inabilty to handle booze, would’ve caught up with them at some point—but, they probably would’ve made the holidays if NOT for the frat. think about it. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:01:27 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49288 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49289 ZT – thanks for pointing out that there are greek systems everywhere. Take the state of Michigan for example where the only stories you hear are the ones related to MSU’s greek system. I know plenty about the greek system to speak towards it and know the peer pressure and dogmas that occur within it encourage destructive and deadly behavior. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49289 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49290 So they would have died in a holiday drunk driving episode. The Greek system is only one channel for booze distribution. Why don’t you blame Miller or Molson for brewing beer or how about the Big Ten Liquor Store for selling primarily to College students????? Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:06:02 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49290 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49291 Anon, people have a right to self destruct in the United States. It’s just survival of the fittest working through evolution. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:08:47 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49291 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49294 There seems to be some misunderstanding about what the Greek System acutally promotes and does NOT promote. I know that the IFC and PC are dedicated to making the Greek Community a safe place. In fact, they have a bi-annual training session that specifically talks about the ramifications of alcohol. Secondly, for those of you that haven’t had the pleasure of being in a FRATERNITY or SORORITY please don’t be ignorant. This death while tragic, has shed light on an issue that has been difficult for years, and that’s underage drinking. If we can curb that, through education and understanding, then this won’t happen again. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:25:09 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49294 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49296 The GREEK SYSTEM IS NOT AT FAULT. How many other college students are tragically effected by alcohol? There are homes, apts, duplexes, and DORMITORY’s that this same thing happens at. Don’t be a fool and automatically associate this individual’s poor decision (if that was the case)with over 3,000 kids, that don’t make a poor choice to abuse alcohol. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:31:45 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49296 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49297 Alum04 – He was 22. Above the legal drinking age. For those of us who actually know how the greek system works. The norm is to drink yourself into blackout and push yourself to a limit that is well beyond “safe drinking”. Yet it’s okay because everyone else is doing it, no big deal. It’s pretty sad when someone makes a comment like “well we’ve all been there having drank so much, he was just unlucky”. Actually no. We haven’t all been there. Just because you call it a social hay ride doesn’t change the fact that it’s really getting as drunk as possible in a barn. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:32:50 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49297 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49298 Anon- That in fact is NOT the mantra of the Greek Community. AND I understand he was NOT underage, but that type of behavior which is becoming more and more previlent has to be stopped. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:51:45 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49298 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49300 Why does it matter how he died? The point is is that our community lost a kind and wonderful member. We do not know the facts yet, and even when we do, who cares? It is sad, period. Put yourselves in the shoes of those who love him, if you had lost someone you cared about would you want to read judgements before the facts come to light? Have respect for those who cared for Brian. Certainly if alcohol was the cause of death then our community as a whole needs to look at ourselves and behaviors, but until we know that for sure let us celebrate the memory of a great person without tainting his reputation. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:01:18 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49300 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49304 For all of those who have convinced themselves that incidents like this happen only in fraternities or sororities have simply ignored the litany of deaths that have occurred on college campuses (including MSU) across the country. While Greek communities certainly need to take a hard look at themselves, it is simply too easy to point fingers at fraternities and sororities. Greeks are an easy target, in part because they do some dumb things from time to time, and seem bent on avoiding accountability at times. However, they are an easy target also because they are part of an identifiable subgroup. My guess is that some of you feel quite differently when so-called adults describe all STUDENTS or TEENS in much the same way. You somehow get indignant at that kind of talk, but feel free to distance yourself here. In part, growing up involves learning to withhold such judgments, and I hope that you don’t have to learn that the hard way. In the meantime, while you remain in stereotype mode, I look forward to your commentary when MSU Greeks raise $250,000 for charity yet again this Spring. While I can’t wait to read your posts then, I won’t hold my breath. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:57:08 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49304 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49305 How many other incidents have occurred this semester? Oh that’s right: one. Oh and what a coincidence, he was ridiculously intoxicated and doing something stupid with his greek brothers. Stop the senseless deaths and open your eyes. Something needs to change. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:06:57 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49305 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49314 As a matter of fact, there has been another incient of this nature which was completely unrelated to the greek community. A girl died in a dorm earlier this year in an alcohol related death. Don’t be ignorant and assume that drinking only occurs in the greek community; It happens everywhere, and the fraternity and community are not at fault. My condolences go out to his family and brothers of AGR. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:27:16 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49314 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49316 People, you are completely missing the point here. If you want to have a debate about the effects of drinking, the supposed ignorance of people who consume alcohol, or other related topics, start a forum. This comment stream is not the place! I personally am in a Fraternity, and I can honestly say that in all the events I’ve attended, drinking was not the main attraction, rather, it was the fellowship between brothers. I think “Rick” hit the nail on the head; people are blaming it on the Greek society because its a group. If he was not Greek, people would surely find another way to categorize him and blame it on that. I can’t fathom how people are commenting on his supposed “inability to handle booze” and making other various accusations about a student that you probably didn’t know! For those of you so shallow at heart and shallower in the mind, please consider this: your best friend or a close sibling passes away (or a child, if you have one). There are a handful of possibilities as to the cause, but everyone jumps the gun and assumes and actually has the audacity to claim that your friend/sibling/child was an idiot and incapable of controlling their own actions. Please, think about the negative you are pumping into a situation that is already so devastating and control yourself. With that being said, yes, I somewhat agree that SOME fraternities and sororities have poor morals and encourage drinking. But as pointed out above, Greeks do so many good things around their respective campuses and communities. To say that they should be banned is outrageous. I understand that you may be trying to rationalize the events that have happened, but blaming them on something so deep-rooted and supported by so many powerful people (Google some big names, you’ll be surprised) is just absurd. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:34:37 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49316 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49320 So my guess is Cedar fest is created by Greeks…all those thousands of party crazed drunk students must been all greeks… Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:48:17 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49320 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49321 So my guess is Cedar fest is created by Greeks…all those thousands of party crazed drunk students must been all greeks… Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:48:34 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49321 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49326 I think we are all making a big mistake by judging and pointing the finger so quickly. Have a little respect for the young men who just lost their lives. Have a little respect for the families who will be missing sons this holiday season. There will be plenty of time to discuss all maters of the tragedy when the facts come out. But right now everything is hearsay and the comments being said about this are your opinions and don’t hold any semblance of truth. There is no doubt that the Greek community has to take a hard look at themselves and make some many necessary changes. But before we condemn an entire group of stand up citizens and students we should respect that many of them just lost two close friends. Rick said it best that as a community it is very simple to point a finger at us when something goes wrong. Some of this criticism is deserved but most of it is uninformed and ignorant statements. I was a member of the Greek community during my time at MSU and held the position of president for my Fraternity. I can say that I got more relevant, real-life experience in that year than any on campus group or class that I was involved in. There is much more to being involved in a Fraternity or Sorority than drinking and partying. I dare anyone to find a single group that raises more money for charities and the community than the Greeks. Our Annual Greek Week raises over $200,000 dollars for the American Cancer Society and other charities. Each house has a specific charity that they contribute money to throughout the year. These are just two examples of the many worthwhile causes that the Greek community tackles. The facts may come out to show that these tragedies were directly related to being involved in the Greek system, but I doubt there are many of us who truly believe that this could only happen to someone that is in a Fraternity or Sorority. There is no question that the Greek image needs to be cleaned up across the nation but let those who are trying to make a difference do it and leave the negative stereotypes and biases behind. To those deeply affected by these situation my heart goes out to you and you will be in my prayers. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:47:56 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49326 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49330 My prayers go out to Brian’s family and friends. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:16:52 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49330 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49332 My condolences to the family. I’m shocked there are so many people saying such terrible things. Who the heck raised you people? Darth Vader? Have a little sympathy. I can’t imagine you’d be such pricks if you weren’t hiding behind your keyboards. We all make mistakes that could be potentially fatal. Ever run through a the tailend of a yellow light? What about jaywalk? How about try to hang Christmas lights on your house? Guess what, all of those things could result in your death. You self-righteous pricks sicken me. Going forward, the State News really needs to monitor all comments for these types of stories before they’re posted. There are a lot of great things about the Internet; the anonymity it provides sociopaths and idiots is not one of them. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:24:14 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49332 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49333 It’s been a day and a half since he passed. Let Brian Rest In Peace for a moment, until you understand. No one yet knows exactly what happened… only he knows. So stop comparing him to the “typical stupid frat boy.” The people who are using this as a stereotypical case study of Greek binge drinking obviously did not know him. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:44:50 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49333 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49678 “Members of the Panhellenic Council and the Interfraternity Council both held meetings Monday night about how to respond to McMillen’s death, which marks the second death within MSU’s greek community this month.” Please realize having two members of your greek community die within a month is not a normal nor is it acceptable despite what you believe is “normal” among the national greek scene. Down the road in Ann Arbor frats get their membership canceled because their parties are too large, here we have people die and it’s “not our problem” to our greek community. Way to represent. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:30:31 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49678 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49765 As an allumni of this fraternity i can tell you that a lot of sucessfull people have come from this fraternity. God bless the work these people do and continue to bless this fraternity. This one incindent is not what this fraternity represents. God bless Greg Heinze Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:16:57 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49765 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49812 To the greek community: Yes people outside of the greek community binge drink and do other stupid actions. However, the word “death” is not also tied to these actions nor is it twice in a month. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:07:26 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/49812 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50125 Im a greek, Ive gotten too drunk on one single occasion at my house. Because of it the house banned me from drinking for a month and encouraged me to take classes on safe alcohol consumption. If a non greek person got blacked out in the dorms I doubt his room mate would take as much care and concern for that persons well being as my house took for me. Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:45:59 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50125 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50164 I am horrified at some of the comments people are posting about my brother. You who speak ill of him, yet did not know him. You all assume that drinking was a factored in his death, however the official toxicology report has yet to come out. I am surprised that State News have left some of these comments up. Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:36:33 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50164 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50167 Daniel I just want you to know that you’re in our hearts and that we miss you. I hope you take care of yourself, and I am so so sorry for what happened. People are being complete retards for discussing something stupid on this article, all that matters is that you and your family stay well and get through this. Be strong! Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:04:39 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50167 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50544 When I was at State a student died masturbating. The Greek system, MSU or the police were not blamed. There was no call to abolish the Greek system or outlaw jerking off. As sad as it was it was determined to have been a tragic accident. Until the autopsy is released can’t people just offer their condolences without trying to find someone or something to blame. The young men of AGR have my heart felt condolences. Please remember your fallen brother often and fondly now and in the future. Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:08:08 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50544 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50550 How can the SN allow people who use ANON as a name post ridiculous nonsensical statements. Numerous nongreeks flunk out of school due to drug or alcohol abuse. Where are the stories and comments on these horrible people? Does anyone know what the IFC policy is on alcohol? Probably not because they don’t publicize it. The IFC is too busy making uninforcible rules. Much like auto companies 1 person makes a mistake they make rules that penalize everyone. If I wanted to be told what I could do, who I can invite and how many beers I could bring to a party I would have stayed home and gone to JC. The IFC needs to piss off Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:25:16 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50550 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50608 Doing the least amount of reseach people could see last winter term 3 people all died with in a week of strange circumstances. That was as far as the SN would go. Becuase they did not happen to members of the Greek system there were no comments condemning the univerisity demanding they do more to prevent these deaths. The numbers of comments didn’t fill a page for any of the articles. This just tells me the word greek is a hot button for haters. People have lost sons, brothers friends so to use the comment section to blast a small minority of people tthat don’t affect you positively or negatively in any way seems samall and childish. Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:59:12 -0500 http://www.statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/50608