Same-sex marriage opponents wrong

there is no empirical data to support changing 200 year old (2,000 year old in reality)juris prudence prohibiting same sex marriage. in other words, there is no supporting data that says gay marriage is in the best interest of children and society at large.

simply get over it.

The homosexual lifestyle is unsafe, unhealthy, and society should not legitimize the deviancy of homosexuality.

I think the author said it all when she said “People fight so passionately against gay marriage, yet they can’t see the consequences of how their views are hurting those who love each other.”

How does my gay brother getting married to his partner of over 10 years impact anyone? Gays exist people. I am getting so tired of the bigotry and ignorance. To all those against gay marriage, please answer one question for me. When did YOU choose your sexual orientation? Exactly!

there is no empirical data to support changing 200 year old (2,000 year old in reality)juris prudence prohibiting same sex marriage. in other words, “there is no supporting data that says gay marriage is in the best interest of children and society at large.”
might want to get your facts straight there skippy. sure they’re just scientific facts supported by numerous social health organizations (AMA, APA etc)

“simply get over it.”
your worst nightmare bigot…nobody’s going no place

I am a Christian and I struggle with this myself. I am not willing to quickly pass judgement on someone. I think at one time I could have. Yes, there are those in the gay community who are in non committed relationships, looking to get in every man’s pants, just for sex. That is disgusting to me. But when I hear about individuals like your brother, someone in a committed relationship, I have a hard time passing judgement. I will not lie, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. But I myself find that in my heart I hurt for those that have not chosen their sexual orientation and still have to suffer with such pain. I just pray that I never hurt anyone by showing that I am a Christian and making the difficult situation that they are in, even worse. I wish I had the answer it is something I really strive to know. But God Bless You for being there for your brother and God Bless Your brother too. I myself am searching for the answers to why some individuals go through what your brother goes through. I may never know in this life. But it is through this paper and through a long debate sometime ago that my heart began to open up. I don’t want to encourage sin or go against God’s word. But I feel there is some sort of answer, I just can’t believe someone is created this way to suffer so. But in the meantime, I will love people like your brother, because as far as I am concerned it could of happened to anyone. I have one more thing to say…I do feel some are born this way, I feel others are gay because of sexual abuse and/or they are looking for the love and acceptance of their fathers. I just hope that I haven’t offended you in anyway by my post…I am really trying to understand all of this myself.

“The homosexual lifestyle is unsafe, unhealthy, and society should not legitimize the deviancy of homosexuality.”
Deviant from what? Wow…willful ignorance runs rampant in this country. Do some research…get your facts straight like the other bigot then post something meaningful to the argument…oh right, after the research is done your side has nothing meaningful to offer.

Well, whatever anyone else feels, my partner and I, who live in Connecticut, will be married this summer, after being together for 35 years. In Connecticut, it is legal for a gay couple to get married. At least we have lived long enough to be able to have our marriage legally recognized.

And for those who feel that it’s wrong to allow same sex couples access to marriage, ask yourselves, how many heterosexual marriages last 35 years? 80% of the straight couples we have known over the years are now divorced. So much for the “sanctity of marriage” argument.

We did all of this without any help what so ever from anyone. We did it because we simply love each other.

EMPIRICAL DATA
The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individual’s ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

From the American Psychological Asociation: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

America’s premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality. There is no further reason to discriminate, except ignorance or bigotry. Think of what you would want for yourself or your your family.
Sexual orientation is similar to left-handedness: biological, unchangeable, innocent. We used to think left-handed was evil (Latin for left is “sinister”), and force lefties to use only their right hand, even though they never really changed. Research reveals variable hormonal levels in pregnancy permanently affect a child’s neural circuitry for sexual orientation and gender identity: a little more testosterone in fetal girls’ brains from an adrenal condition can cause

Rightthinto do has a strong opinion, but it is baseless.
ZZZZZZZZ needs to look up data on the internet websites of the major child health, mental health qnd fmaily health institutions that I have referenced avove, and then develop what is called an evidence based opinion.

Let’s all try our best to learn from one another, please. I HOPE that we can.

I am married to my partner of 11 years in Canada— we live in Florida Our marriage is not legal here his status in the United States is visitor we have to go back to Canada Regularly. It is not fair I should be able to sponcer my partner I dont want to have to move from my birth place to be with my partner. Most folks are unaware of this. It is not a American Value.

I think this article is great. It really puts into words some of my opinions on the issue- like the fact that I just do not understand why anyone would be opposed to same sex marriage when doing so gains them nothing.

I mean, what would change for opposite sex marriage if same sex marriage became legal? As far as I can tell, nothing.

And I’ve never had anyone be able to explain to me why they were against same sex marriage with out them just telling me ‘it’s wrong,’ which is not a valid arguement in our country.

Man, I went and raddled on again. Sorry.

To those of you using the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality, you are

wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of

context to support anti-gay views. Any educated Christian would know that.

Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other

passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc)

have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked

while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are

idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and

rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html
http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
http://www.gaychristian101.com/

Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or

sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If

you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are

a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell,

hypocrites will.

This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible

passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to

claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used

God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God’s will.

For those of you claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle”, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
Gay, Straight Men’s Brain Responses Differ
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. “Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

Thank you ms. Mitchell for standing up for the issue.

Being married is overrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OqHr3wHQ

Thank you Shadow Man for having the wherewithal to cite sources when making a factual argument. There seems to be an epidemic in this country among young people who simply refuse to provide evidence for the facts they allege. How can I possibly know you aren’t lying?

Let’s make one thing clear. At bottom, the issue is not about GAY marriage; there is no gay or straight marriage, only the legal act, itself. The issue is about EQUAL ACCESS to the right to marry for all adult citizens of this country. One cannot rationally say they support equal rights, but are against marriage for same sex couples.

Further, marriages are performed by a qualified religious figure or secular official. There may be a religious element to a marriage (such as a celebration in a church), but it is not demanded by the law. The law is interested in marriage principally, but not exclusively, in regards to property. If you don’t think so, simply ask someone who is going through a bitter divorce!

Many European counties have long since settled any duel nature in matrimony. The state can perform marriage; a religious institution can perform marriage; but neither recognizes the other. Same sex couples in this country should AT LEAST have access to state marriage and the legal protections it brings.

The fundamental item here is marriage. Marriage is a union with its foundations in religion, and is perceived by most religions as a holy communement with God.

Now you want to tell these people that despite the very obvious fact that God made a man to mate with a woman and not another man, that somehow they and their religion are wrong?

My inlaws are very devout Catholics. They have no issue with civil unions and granting rights to partners so united. But to grant marriage to gay couples is a massive afront to their religion.

So when you ask what right to these people have to interfere with the rights of a gay couple, I would ask you what right the government has to insult their religion?

Disclaimer 1: I have no issue with gay marriage myself :)

Disclaimer 2: I am a happy, well-adjusted atheist :)

“the very obvious fact that God made a man to mate with a woman and not another man”

That’s where you get it wrong. God very definitely made me to mate with another man.

The men who find that it is natural for them to mate with a woman should marry a woman – if he can find one who just want’s to mate, rather than form a loving, mutual committed relationship with.

For those of us who fall in love differently, we have the right to marry the person we do love.

As for all the “destroying marriage” stuff, I have yet to see any marriage equality proposal that makes the slightest change to marriage for straight couples. Not the slightest change to who they can marry, when they can marry, or what benefits and obligations their marriages involve. Not one. How do you destroy something you don’t even change?

That’s a lot like saying that letting your neighbors paint their kitchen blue will destroy your house.

if your marriage is destroyed by ANYTHING your neighbors do, it was a pretty sad sham of a marriage to begin with and everyone is better off without it.

Jack no you didn’t raddled on you were just fine. Hopefully I can share my thoughts with you and others about how I see marriage.
Marriage is sacred and it was intended for men and woman to marry in order to procreate. God ordained marriage to be between a man and a woman. When you start adding other things to the mix, such as marriage between two men or two woman then this begins to distort the meaning of marriage and what it was intended for. It is no longer seen as sacred. One can then say, why not have marriage as something between 2 men and 1 woman, or 3 men can get married, or man and animal, or children and adults. I believe that this is the reason why marriage is opposed between same sex couples, simply because it takes away from the sanctity of what marriage was meant to be…a man and a woman…expressing their love and committment…and through the marriage bond being united and through this union, children are created. By changing it you open the door to all sort of things that were never intended. I myself do not have a problem with someone that is in a committed gay reltionship. I am not trying to hurt anyone in any way. I am just trying to protect the sacred vows of marriage. This is a very difficult subject and my heart does go out to those in a loving committed same sex relationship. I just don’t want to see marriage changed to something it was never intended to be, that’s all.

Jack, I hear what you’re saying; however, you can’t deny marriage equality because you’re worried that the world will fall apart. It hasn’t happened in Canada or Mass, so odds are the courts aren’t going to be marrying a man and a goat any time soon. Secondly, don’t you feel that couples in a committed relationship should have the right to have a civil marriage? The 14th amendment allows people of all religious beliefs to get married. I hope you can look past your prejudices and embrace your fellow man with love not animus.

I whole heartly agree with what you said here: “For those of you claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle”, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to.” I am a Christian I have written that in my other post and I see where you are coming from. But I also agree with another point that you have stated: ““Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.” I agree that is probably the case for many gay individuals. But I do see individuals who have suffered child molestation and men who never were able to bond with their fathers…in these cicumstances, I feel that these particular individuals were never gay to begin with…instead, I feel that it is their way of dealing with their mis interrupted sexuality. I see it as a psycological adaption, to the circumsatnces they have had to deal with in their life, (if that makes any sense). I wish I could agree with your first post, but I do say that make your argument is rather compelling. I am heterosexual and I love my homosexual sisters and brothers. I just struggle with the issue of sin and wouldn’t want to lead someone down the wrong path. It is very confusing and I myself struggle with this issue, because of the compassion I feel for the gay community.

Opponents of gay marriage are fighting a battle they can’t win. In this country anytime a group of people have been denied civil rights, eventually they gain those rights. Why fight so hard to delay the inevitable?