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Visiting professor speaks on climate change at MSU

By Ian Johnson Originally Published: 02/04/10 9:38pm Modified: 02/04/10 11:28pm 4 comments

By the year 2100, the globe is at risk to lose 40 percent of the animal population to extinction, according to Terry Root.

Although many people dispute the idea of global climate change, the problem couldn’t be more serious, said Root, a Stanford University professor visiting MSU this week.

Root gave her lecture Thursday afternoon in the Union titled “Climate Change and Michigan Species: Adapting or Going Extinct,” which illustrated what could happen to many species on Earth if current trends continue, Root said.

“There are people out there that you’re not going to convince,” she said. “It’s not a belief, it’s a fact. We know that the climate is warming.”

Root’s lecture was part of the Environmental Science and Policy Programs lecture series on climate change, which examines how the changes in global temperature affect health, business and the environment, said Maya Fischhoff, assistant director of the program.

“This issue intersects with lots of different topics and things that people care about,” Fischhoff said.

“The purpose is to bring together people at MSU who are working on climate change, but also people outside the university who are engaged in the issue — to bridge the world of people in Michigan working on climate change.”

The series brings in lecturers from across the country to speak at MSU and try to introduce new ideas to faculty and students, Fischhoff said.

“Sometimes having somebody from the outside can make you look at things differently,” she said. “We wanted to mix things up a bit and get some different ideas circulating through.”

At almost all of her presentations, Root said she speaks with people who don’t understand the significance of extinction.

Many people think the only animals humans need to rely on are cows and chickens for food, but that couldn’t be further from the truth, she said.

“There are species that they don’t see that are supporting other species,” Root said. “What I do is talk about how strongly everything is all put together. It’s a very strong web. If you break one part of it a lot can fall apart.”

The most shocking part of Root’s lecture wasn’t that animals were facing extinction, it was how quickly extinction was becoming a problem, said public policy graduate student James Carson.

“It’s pretty startling,” Carson said. “She made it appear a little more dire than I thought it would be — as far as rises in global temperature over the years, the amount of extinct species and how radically they’ll have to adapt to different habitats.”

Although the problem seems incurable and the solution is not completely clear, Root said people will fight to keep animals from going extinct.

“There is hope,” she said.

“We can do things. We are going to save species. We are going to have to move a lot, but we are going to save a lot. It’s not hopeless.”


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Dougetit
(02/04/10 10:23pm)
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“The global-warming movement as we have known it is dead,” writes Walter Russell Mead of the Council on Foreign Relations in the American Interest. “The movement died from two causes: bad science and bad politics.”

Some decades hence, I suspect, people will look back and wonder why so many government, corporate and media elites were taken in by propaganda that was based on such shoddy and dishonest evidence.

Unfortunately, the cadre of climate scientists who have dominated public discussion and have controlled the IPCC have been demonstrated to be far, far less than trustworthy. They have distorted science in the interest of something that resembles religious dogma.
The secular religion of global warming has all the elements of a religious faith: original sin (we are polluting the planet), ritual (separate your waste for recycling), redemption (renounce economic growth) and the sale of indulgences (carbon offsets). We are told we must have faith (all argument must end, as Al Gore likes to say) and must persecute heretics.

People in the grip of such a religious frenzy evidently feel justified in lying, concealing good evidence and plucking bad evidence from whatever flimsy source may be at hand.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2010/02/04/20100204barone05.html


Mike
(02/05/10 10:12am)
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Totally agree with Dougetit.

Ms. Root isn’t anywhere near being qualified to say anything authoritative regarding “climate change”.


Earl_E
(02/05/10 10:49am)
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Ever notice how quickly the denialists point out that the media and government have fallen for incomplete science, then pat themselves on the back and denounce the messenger. Mike and Douchetit(same writer) are often the first comments. Like an intellectual virus, they keep their cancer alive as long as the ingnorant masses(unemployed and disconnected) haven’t the strength nor resources to even care.

Before I begin, allow me to dispel some preconceived notions that the title may have given you. I am not a Marxist or a Communist, at least not politically. Being a Bowdoin student, I am a solid beneficiary of the bourgeoisie dominance, and odds are that if you are reading this, you are too. More academically though, I find much of Marx’s writing to extremely reductive, and it consequently loses much of its value to a lack of nuance. However, from his many over-simplifications, one stands out not only as interesting, but also surprisingly relevant to the current issue of climate change. Marx views the past through a lens, largely ground by Hegel, that shapes history as a series of conflicts in which different parts of society fight. The result each time is a “revolutionary reconstitution of society” that changes not just the structure of society, but the very nature of the combatants within it. He cites the dramatic shifts from Roman society to feudal society and from feudal society to industrial society as examples of the near complete changes that these conflicts have wrought. He also explains how each time, the current society “forges” the very weapons that bring it down. Marx then continues to what is perhaps the most popularly known part of The Communist Manifesto: how we are currently in the process of social revolution, how workers are going to overthrow the current reign and make the communist state, blah, blah, blah, etc.

Well, history seems to show that that hasn’t happened. Capitalism prevailed right? The Soviet Union failed, right? China is more totalitarian than communist. And what in the world does this have to do with the environment? Interestingly, about a decade later Marx wrote, “We cannot judge a period of transformation by its own consciousness.” Admittedly, I am context quoting, for Marx goes on to write that we can understand it by different means. However, it seems apt to say that perhaps Marx did not understand the period of transformation that he was in, that he was part of its consciousness. The revolution after the industrial revolution has not happened, but I argue that the implications of global warming necessitate adding that frightful word: yet.

For me, the real issue behind global warming is a matter of resources. Yeah, Manhattan might be under a couple feet of water, and a few island nations might be devoured by the sea, but I never really liked cities anyway and I don’t live on an island (yeah, I’m an a**hole). However, what happens when we lose mountain top snowpacks and sources of freshwater dry up? What happens to our fishing stocks when the salinity of the ocean changes? These worldwide depletions of vital resources are the true terror of global warming.

However, in reality, global warming only hints at larger, and if you can believe it, even more seemingly insurmountable environmental problems. Eventually, and perhaps sooner than we would like to think, the earth is simply going to run out of resources. Though this is perhaps an extreme conclusion, the logic of our current system economic system demands it. Industrial society (the distinction from post-industrial is irrelevant for this argument) demands constant growth in order to survive. Think about our current recession for example, one of the worst in recent history. In the depths of the recession the GDP shrunk only slightly, and not for very long. The rest of the time, it grew slower than normal. The economy does not even have to stop growing, let alone shrink, to be in bad shape. We could have a stagnant economy and still be growing, still consuming more resources. Combined with exponentially increasing population growth, modern economics promises to use up our resources at a faster and faster rate. In reality, our current economic system is merely a giant Ponzi scheme, and the down turn that will send it tumbling will be when resources dry up. We have what I will context quote Marx to describe: “the epidemic of over-production.”

Consequently, I feel that environmentalists and communists should have something in common. The current trend in environmentalism is sustainability, and though I whole-heartedly applaud the effort, I feel that we are merely exchanging the switch-blade for a fruit knife, we are still cutting ourselves. Even if our lightbulbs are that much more efficient, our showers that much shorter, our waste that much more recycled, we still have to deal with the demands of rising populations and the necessity of economic growth. Those that put their faith in future technologies forget not only that present technologies put us in this mess, but also basic chemistry: the law of the conservation of matter. Economists seem to think that developing a country stabilizes its population. True or not, they forget that the United States, which is developed and has a stable population, consumes the lion’s share of the world’s goods. Imagine what would happen if every country consumed as much per capita as we do.

Instead, environmentalists need to be calling for an economic transformation, one that will undoubtedly drastically change society as it is organized now. Modern economics spells our eventual destruction. I laugh whenever I hear the seemingly universally popular buzz phrase, “market-based solution to global warming.” The market and its demand for demand is the very cause of global warming. Perhaps if everyone drove a subsidized Prius, we would solve global warming. However, the larger problems of resource depletion cannot be solved in our current mode of economics and the society intertwined with it. Only a monumental change in the way we live, the way we structure our society, can truly solve environmental problems. In the mean time, we put off the inevitable with more efficient cars.

When Marx tells how each society “forges” the very weapons of its demise, he sees those weapons being wielded by the oppressed in a battle of classes. We have indeed already created the instruments that will end industrial society; however they will not be used by human hands. Instead we have thrust them into the unwilling hands of our mother, earth, who will have no choice but to turn them on her children. Marx writes that “mankind only sets itself tasks that it can solve,” and though I agree with the seeming optimism of that statement, I feel that the solutions don’t always looks like how we imagine they will. The world’s continuing inability to deal with global warming portends something frightening, and perhaps revolutionary.


Elton
(02/05/10 1:49pm)
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Dr. Root may be a Stanford professor with a Ph.D. and years of research experience, but what does she really know about climate change?

College dropout Glenn Beck says climtate change isn’t real, and he’s on TV.