Fake pot ban moves to Senate

I can’t wait for the hippies to rage against this one.

Meh, I’m 23 and graduated, and have a real life now, job and all. This bill would never affect a person like me. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

“any substance that mimicks the effects of marijuana”

Looks like I better stop having sex, because that always builds my appetite. Which brings us back to pot…

get ready for the fairy pot haters to compare the two, har har har i kid the drama queens right Lol! har har har

“(K2) may give you a temporary high that is similar to smoking marijuana, but it can lead to physical problems that marijuana cannot lead to” -Meadows

maybe they should just legalize pot then……

Do these State Reps know anything about this substance at all.
I think they were probably given a paragraph of priming material.
So what are the adverse physical side effects?

I dont disagree that this substance should probably be researched a little bit more, and at the very least make it only accessible by 18 y.o.

I applaud Justin Amash for thinking with his very own brain.

Just freakin legalize pot already. This is getting absurd.

I don’t know how stupid/worthless you have to be to even care about something like this. A mature, contributing adult should not have time for mind altering drugs (nor should a college student). If you have the time/desire to use a mind altering drug, then something is wrong with you. You need psychological help, because you are obviously having problems dealing with “reality”.

Nope, what are you talking about? An adult shouldn’t have time for mind altering drugs. That’s like saying someone shouldn’t have time for a beer or time for dinner. I don’t think “time” is the issue. Caffeine is mind altering, should adults not have time for that. K2 probably shouldn’t be smoked, I don’t even think that was it’s original intention. The truth is pot should just be legalized and taxed. Make it so you have to be 18 years old to purchase it. It would take violence off of the streets and would generate a lot of income for the government.

Just to offer another perspective:

I am 28, have a bachelors and a masters, am married, and have had a “real life” and real job for about 4 years now. I am also a casual pot smoker. I smoke at the end of the day, during the hour or two that I have to relax before going to bed. I do this because I enjoy it, and because I have never had anything even remotely resembling a negative situation as a result of my pot smoking. My doctor has informed me that I have absolutely no residual damage of any kind, and that if it works for me, which it does, there is no reason for me to stop.

I feel that if I were “stupid,” I never would have made it through grad school. If I were “worthless,” I probably wouldn’t be paid as well as I am in a public service job that I have held, and excelled at (climbing the ladder) for the past 4 years. I also refute the notion that I “need psychological help,” simply because I am so successful in every avenue of my life, and at the same time am a very happy and well-liked person. And the notion that this bill would “never affect a person like” lol (graduated, working) is simply undeniably and unequivically wrong.

I encourage both of you to consider other perspectives on this issue, and to challenge the idealogy that you seem so sure of. A drug is a compound that alters your physical or mental state. American society’s determination of which drugs should or should not be legal is completely arbitrary.

There is no one criteria that decides which side of the legal “fence” a given drug should fall on. The decision is not based on potential for addiction, or tobacco would be illegal. It is not based on mind altering potential, or alcohol would be illegal. It is not based on overdose potential, or pot would be legal. Our drug laws are arbitrary. Marijuana was outlawed in the 1930s for political reasons (part of a larger war on Mexican immigration and culture at that time).

It seems that both of you are placing a lot of blind faith in the legitimacy of our drug laws. An “if it’s illegal, it must be bad” sort of mentality. To me, that flies in the face of the free thinking that I would expect in a college graduate. So, I would encourage you to think for yourselves before condemning a whole group of people for what I consider to be a relatively harmless activity. Certainly more harmless, in my educated opinion, than the use of alcohol or coffee.

Hahaha, you are a perfect example of what is wrong here – You are married, probably going to have kids, and are fine with using an illegal drug in your home. Lol. Where do you work? McDonalds? Are you aware that there is a reason that employers drug test you?

You are completely unaware of your idiocy. You tell yourself that you need the pot to “deal” with things? Is that it? Is your wife not cutting it for you anymore? You would rather just get high and sit around for a couple hours before you go to bed?

You fail.

Also, to the person above you who claims that caffeine alters the mind just like pot – Quit college immediately. Your statement is so incredibly stupid, that it really doesn’t deserve a response. I don’t know why I wasted the time to type these last few sentences. W T F is wrong with you people? Where are you getting these defective ideas? Is this what they are teaching kids nowadays???

the only thing worse than the war on drugs is the war on talking about drugs that some of the comments here promote

/substancevirgin

Thank you for your post. I work at a middle school in Los Angeles county. I started out as a social studies teacher, made department chair my second year, and then accepted a promotion to program coordinator. Do to mergers and cutbacks, I will also be serving as intervention coordinator next year. Forgive me if your “where do you work” question was meant to be rhetorical. I have never worked at Mcdonalds, but certainly do not have anything against people who do.

I want to clarify a few things implicit in your post which are inaccurate. First, I don’t use an “illegal” drug in my home, as I have a medical license and am therefore perfectly legal. Also, I love my spouse very much and am very happy with her, as I am sure you can relate to if you are also married. Marriage is a beautiful institution and I thank God for her partnership every day.

I would also like to clarify that I neither “need” pot nor use it to “deal with things”.

I hope this has clarified my position and situation a little better. Again thankyou for your post, and and I wish you the best in all of your endeavors.

- James

Pathetic, conservatives and liberals coming together to squash the rights of the citizenry. Something this insane would only happen in the puritan midwest. For those of you who are sick of the government telling you what to do move to the rocky mountain states, or heck Alaska where pot is decriminalized.

Why is marijuana illegal again?

I wholeheartedly agree with taxation and an age requirement. Marijuana does nothing but make you tired, hungry, and perhaps a bit happier. Something many people in this backwards region don’t seem to understand. The elitist christians and puritans who run this state have no idea how profitable this could be. If they spent more time researching the possibilitities of positive outcomes they would overlook they’re personal beliefs and rule in favor of marijuana. Why does any bureaucrat vote against something? Because, they personally don’t like the idea of their children or grandchildren smoking marijuana. Well this is America and here you have a choice. Something those bureaucrats have forgotten.

I still have not heard a good argument why all the illegal drugs are illegal and why cigarettes and alcohol are legal. Health risks of illegal drugs? Doesn’t hold up. How many people die of lung cancer, emphyzema (sp?), liver disease, and other things caused by smoking and drinking evey year. Mind altering effects? Doesn’t hold up. Alcohol alters your mind and makes you do things you wouldn’t normally do, just like illegal drugs. How many people can say “I never would have done that if I wasn’t drinking” or “I don’t even remember doing that I was so drunk?” I know I can.

I have a good idea why smoking and drinking are legal and “drugs” aren’t: lobbying. You know how much money tobacco and beer companies make, and how much they probably contribute to political funds to keep them out of trouble? This is only personal speculation, I have no data to back this up. But if someone growing pot had enough money to contribute to enough politician’s pockets, weed would be legalized.

Time makes it easily forgotten that many illegal drugs were legal and made illegal due not only due the harmful effects to the individual but society. I really have no idea how marijuana hurt society or even the individual more than tobacco. What happened to free choice when it does not hurt society?

The drugs included in this legislation should be illegal until studies are done. They should not be legal until then. It is doubtful that any legitimate study would be done by the government to determine side effects.

I don’t think I ever said Caffeine alters the mind like pot. I said it is mind altering in the sense it stimulates and alters your mind. Does it make you high or does it act like pot, no. Does it alter, yes.

Funny: it’ll be easier to “come down with glaucoma” then to buy k2

If you want to use a drug that is illegal for most people, that’s fine. If you want to use a drug that makes you stupid and lazy, that’s fine. I guess lots of people have some sort of crutch that they use to deal with reality. Just know that you are the pot smoking hippie, and I’m not ;D

James you are so polite. I applaud you for how you have handled yourself. NO I am not for smoking pot or for drugs. But I am for smoking pot, for Medical Reasons. You handled yourself like a real gentleman, your wife should feel like a lady, from the way I see that you conduct yourself!

To the person arguing against James I understand where your coming from, I am glad to see that you are opposed to drugs, but try and see where he is coming from. I am happy that you speak out and that you are smart enough not to want to use drugs. I did smoke pot when I was a young adult and I later realized that all drugs “suck”, on the most part. All I got was the giggles, the munchies and then paranoid. Can’t think of a better way to say the “suck” sentence. I know, not very lady like, oh well:)

If drugs are outlawed, only outlaws will have drugs.

I dont smoke.. but I do think that pot should be legal..

however, there needs to be restrictions on it.. not smoking in public.. a certain age…etc.

If you smoke cannibis, you will become a blood-thirsty cannibal who fiends for human brains and bathes in excriment.