Junior guard faces charges after arrest

Who hired the Wolverine on the ELPD? Lets put this in perspective. East Lansing is so hard for cash they are going after the basketball players. A 0.09 BAC is about 3 to 4 beers worth for a 170 lb male which Lucious is listed as. We are not talking about an intoxicated SPARTAN here we are talking about a spartan who had 3 to 4 beers during WELCOME WEEK.

Lucious Im sorry you were caught under age that doesn’t help and driving after drinking is never a wise choice as im sure you know now but guess what there are alot of us out there who have been MIPed by the ELPD before and you know what they call us now… ALUMNI.

We’ll take him Tom if you don’t want him. We need players baddddddddddddddd.

@Parks: He is under 21. The legal limit is 0.00, regardless if he is behiend the wheel or not. The fact he was driving makes it even worse.

Parks,

It’s not that hard: Act like an adult or go home to mommy and daddy so they can change your diapers and keep you from getting into trouble. Despite what welcome week might have you think, East Lansing is not a giant trailer park; most of us are spending at least $10,000 to be here and to become better people, not to endanger the lives of others.

We don’t know the details, but the cops learned of his blood alcohol level only AFTER he was stopped. Presumably his operation of the automobile was enough out of the ordinary to catch the cops’ attention, which says enough. Suppose he was .01 under the limit instead of .01 over. Would that amke a difference in how we view this?

He should be given a DUI, no excuses if your a no name college star or any star. no special privileges should be given.

I can’t decide which makes me sadder – that a kid with everything going for him made such a dumb decision, or that so many students are completely willing to defend him.

I’m from Germany, we don’t have anywhere CLOSE to the drinking problems you have here in the States, and that is because of your 21 drinking age. I never saw binge drinking like I have here. Alcoholism, drunk driving arrests, and underage drinking are 1000%‘s of percent lower in all of Europe than here.

Oh and the police here are amazingly disrespectful. Land of the free? I’m amazed. You can’t even have an open beer 2 inches in front of a bar patio.

I completely agree that he is under the legal age limit and driving after alcohol is notoriously stupid, however its the American perspective on alcohol that causes so many people under age or not to get behind the wheel. And add that to the fact that ELPD will pull someone over for smiling the wrong way, I’m not suprised he was stopped. cheerio

Actually, there have been rather rampant binge drinking rates in Europe, especially in the UK and northern Europe.

I’ll not argue the 21 age limit as thats a different topic, but to say that the US has far higher binge drinking than Europe is pure fantasy.

Ultimately, as much as I’m a huge Spartan fan, “Student” above said it the best.

I had seen him at Harpers not long before this happened. doubt that a fake could have worked for him, Harpers should be reprimanded for letting him into the bar!

.09 is not the problem, we are Spartans after all, but he should have been smarter than to get behind a wheel. I fear the judge is going to make an example of him and not let him off easy like he might do for an average student. It will hopefully make the team realize they are a little less immortal.

I don’t know where you are getting your facts from Re Deutsche, but as far as I know Europe as a far lower drunk driving and problems with alcoholism. If that is from social programs or the drinking age I am unsure. I have heard that the college seen has issues with binge drinking but last I heard it was not nearly as bad as the U.S. I would like to hear where you got your information.

Student, Korie made a mistake. Lets give him a second change, I would want one. Its good that we defend him, people like you want to throw the book at him which very seldom works.

Yes, he made a mistake – but he was lucky that he got pulled over before anything worse happened. Driving through campus stone cold sober yesterday was challenging enough with all the students and bicycles popping out in front of my car every few feet…it doesn’t take much of a distraction to turn a bad decision into one that could have changed his life.

I think he deserves leniency, in the sense that his license should be suspended and after appropriate counseling and some community service, he can have a second chance at driving. If that is “throwing the book at him,” but it makes him and everyone else on this campus think twice about “just having three or four beers” and driving, then I am completely comfortable with that.

And having lived in the UK, I can assure you that binge drinking and underage drinking are most certainly a problem, at least in parts of Europe. I do agree with you that Americans have some really messed up attitudes about alcohol, but I’m not completely convinced that the correlation between a lowered drinking age and fewer alcohol-related problems is valid.

He’s a kid, and kids make mistakes. That’s doesn’t excuse him. He got busted, and he has to live with the consequences. Obviously, he’s got some growing up to do.

What troubles me more is he didn’t learn from recent history that his actions affect more than just him. He made this bad choice just a few days after one of his teammates was dismissed for not being a good team member. He was well aware of the dismissal, but apparently he didn’t make the connection between drinking and driving and messing with a teammate’s girl friend.

One other thing. .09 may not seem like much. But there’s a reason why .08 is the limit, and .09 is 12.5% higher than .08. It’s not just a silly .01.

First of all, do I think the 21 year minimum drinking age is stupid? Yes I do. Second, do I think that college kids shouldn’t drink until they are 21? No, I have plenty of stories I could tell you about underage drinking while I was at MSU. With those two things being said, however, I am not defending what he did. IT IS ILLEGAL for someone under 21 to drink, and it IS illegal to drive a car over the legal limit. If you’re gonna drink, be responsible about it and stay somewhere, don’t drive around afterwards. Any college student should have the common sense to not do something like this, the fact that he’s an athlete and is so high profile and has so much to lose makes it an even worse mistake.

What motivated the cops to pull him over in the first instance? If I were to be his atty, I would follow up on that and possibly challenge the detention as not supported by the requisite reasonable suspicion. If the judge agrees, the obsrvations of the cops and the BAC test gets tossed out.

He couldn’t get a ride? Really? What an idiot. He could call anyone and they would have picked him up. He should have a million numbers of people who would love to pick him up.

Does anyone remember what happened to Cleaves after his DUI? In all seriousness what type of action did Izzo take? I am not sure if it was a DUI Cleaves got, but I know he got in trouble with the law for alcohol. I think it was during their 2000 championship run.

In this light, Lucious you are an idiot. How dare you endanger people. How dare you endanger yourself. You have too much too lose and it baffles me that you would put yourself in this situation. You are so lucky you didn’t hurt yourself, but especially lucky you didn’t hurt others. You bring a bad name to MSU Basketball and MSU. You are a role model for kids across the state, especially after how you shined in the tourney last year. With your stupid decision you threw all that out the door. You are a disgrace and you just defined your career at MSU with your reckless actions that other night.

Coach Izzo…come down with a hammer. It doesn’t matter what it does to your team. That should play no factor at all whatsoever. Chris Allen was kicked off the team and he didn’t get behind the wheel drunk. Don’t lose the respect of those who stand behind you by pulling a Mark Dantonio and slapping him on the wrist.

Do what you know you should.

@jd I totally agree, anyone would have given this guy a ride. All he had to do was post on facebook or twitter or hell, even yell out into the streets “im korie lucious, im drunk ,and i need a ride “ a few hundred people would have lined up.

And @Deutsche, I agree that binge drinking is much more prominent here, they do have it in Europe, but it is nowhere in comparisions to the US.

Lucious is human, who made a stupid, stupid mistake, and will have to learn from it. It is not the end of the world for him, we all make mistakes, and all have to learn from them.

Izzo has lost control of his boys. They are out of control. Recently, it was Mateen Cleaves DUI. Next, Izzo ruined Chris Allen. It is sweet revenge that Korie had his drink SPIKED and did not even know it. Boo Hoo. Welcome to East Lansing and the GESTAPO POLICE!

It just goes to show how little alcohol it takes to spike a drink. Next time, Spartan Athletes, NEVER leave your drink unattended. There is more where that came from. Love, The CA Posse Go Cyclones!

Before all of you get on your high horse and drop down an iron fist, let’s not pretend like you haven’t driven after 3 beers. Quit kidding yourself

@D, ….EXACTLY!!! That’s what I said as soon as I heard about this!

Please get a hold of your team. What kind of message are you sending your players, brushing things under the rug? Apparently your players think they can do what ever they want with no consequences.